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john_cephalopoda | Hey. | 11:13 |
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john_cephalopoda | I get this error when compiling carla: http://pastie.org/pastes/10154567/text?key=fxhaxlcbmtol02kwuu0ha | 11:14 |
LAbot | Title: Private Paste - Pastie (at pastie.org) | 11:14 |
john_cephalopoda | *When running carla | 11:14 |
john_cephalopoda | It crashes at startup. | 11:14 |
john_cephalopoda | Probably due to makeflags (-j4) set? | 11:15 |
john_cephalopoda | When using no flags, I get Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 11:17 |
john_cephalopoda | Is there a way to bt carla? | 11:18 |
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wolftune | my kxstudio install stopped responding to my power management settings. Any thoughts? | 14:12 |
holstein | kernel upgrade? some other update? hardware breakage? user config? GPU driver? | 14:17 |
wolftune | holstein: not that I know to pin down | 14:18 |
wolftune | unfortunately, I didn't track precisely when this changed | 14:19 |
holstein | wont hurt to start by looking at what upgrades were recently applied | 14:19 |
wolftune | it's been a while before I realized that it was really this way | 14:19 |
wolftune | It's been weeks maybe, not sure even | 14:20 |
holstein | wont hurt to look in grub list, and boot older kernel.. and look at what GPU driver/s are installed.. look at xorg, if you have one.. etc | 14:20 |
holstein | try a live iso, or officially supported OS to see if the hardware is fine | 14:20 |
wolftune | hmm | 14:20 |
holstein | try as another user | 14:20 |
holstein | look at system configs.. etc.. | 14:20 |
wolftune | I kinda was hoping a future kernel update would just fix it :P | 14:21 |
holstein | i have found, installing, or getting a dep install of something that controls PM settings can override settings i make | 14:21 |
holstein | sure.. but, thats also assuming something is "broken" that needs fixed | 14:21 |
wolftune | sure | 14:21 |
holstein | for example, for me, i would consider it a "fix" if a kernel update just made PM management disabled, and not eating into any resources | 14:22 |
holstein | but, thats just me, for my work flow | 14:22 |
holstein | otherwise, on laptops, etc, where i *do* want it, i'll do something similar to what i list above, and try and isolate, and test.. making sure the harware is capable of what i want in linux.. which, you say you know, since, it *used* to work as you want | 14:22 |
wolftune | not sure why I find that almost offensive | 14:22 |
wolftune | yeah | 14:23 |
holstein | you find the machine performance offensive? | 14:23 |
wolftune | the thing about kernel update that disabled PM being desired for you | 14:23 |
holstein | well, i dont make a kernel... im just saying, it can be quite relative, and noting hardware support being key | 14:24 |
holstein | anyways, the fact that it did work makes it easier, usually | 14:24 |
wolftune | yeah | 14:24 |
holstein | i would try booting an older kernel first, since, that can simply be the cause.. | 14:24 |
wolftune | I could try older kernel, but I think I removed outdated ones… | 14:24 |
holstein | i *always* keep the last "known good" one, around.. its standard practice with a linux install | 14:25 |
wolftune | well, if everything seems fine at first… | 14:25 |
wolftune | and I commonly do the remove unnecessary packages thing… | 14:26 |
holstein | ah.. the relevent details :) | 14:26 |
wolftune | well, gonna test a restart… thanks for the help and pointers | 14:26 |
holstein | anyways, the space that removing an older kernel affords should be considered | 14:26 |
holstein | i mean, how much space is that taking up? in a production environment.. its likely quite small considering | 14:26 |
holstein | especially when it can answer these questions quickly.. and,when issues happen with a kernel upgrade, you have a known-good backup.. | 14:27 |
wolftune | sure | 14:27 |
wolftune | okay, back in a bit | 14:28 |
holstein | if the power went off mid kernel upgrade, for example.. this woulg go from "crap".. to, "oh, lemme just boot my older kernel and look about" | 14:28 |
wolftune | yeah | 14:30 |
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wolftune | holstein: I just restarted after coincidentally installing a new kernel, it seems to be working again! | 14:34 |
holstein | \o/ ..and there was much rejoicing.. | 14:36 |
wolftune | vague guess is that it *might* relate to the fact that I had a strange kernel panic and force-restarted in the past (but not just now)… because I think I have something loose in my SATA connection or some other hardware thing I'm not finding time to deal with… | 14:36 |
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JackWinter | i keep several kernels installed and configured in the boot manager, like that it's easy to boot another one and see how it works. but needs some hands on to setup :) | 16:42 |
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