Tuesday, 2015-05-05

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john_cephalopodaHey.11:13
john_cephalopodaI get this error when compiling carla: http://pastie.org/pastes/10154567/text?key=fxhaxlcbmtol02kwuu0ha11:14
LAbotTitle: Private Paste - Pastie (at pastie.org)11:14
john_cephalopoda*When running carla11:14
john_cephalopodaIt crashes at startup.11:14
john_cephalopodaProbably due to makeflags (-j4) set?11:15
john_cephalopodaWhen using no flags, I get Segmentation fault (core dumped)11:17
john_cephalopodaIs there a way to bt carla?11:18
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wolftunemy kxstudio install stopped responding to my power management settings. Any thoughts?14:12
holsteinkernel upgrade? some other update? hardware breakage? user config? GPU driver?14:17
wolftuneholstein: not that I know to pin down14:18
wolftuneunfortunately, I didn't track precisely when this changed14:19
holsteinwont hurt to start by looking at what upgrades were recently applied14:19
wolftuneit's been a while before I realized that it was really this way14:19
wolftuneIt's been weeks maybe, not sure even14:20
holsteinwont hurt to look in grub list, and boot older kernel.. and look at what GPU driver/s are installed.. look at xorg, if you have one.. etc14:20
holsteintry a live iso, or officially supported OS to see if the hardware is fine14:20
wolftunehmm14:20
holsteintry as another user14:20
holsteinlook at system configs.. etc..14:20
wolftuneI kinda was hoping a future kernel update would just fix it :P14:21
holsteini have found, installing, or getting a dep install of something that controls PM settings can override settings i make14:21
holsteinsure.. but, thats also assuming something is "broken" that needs fixed14:21
wolftunesure14:21
holsteinfor example, for me, i would consider it a "fix" if a kernel update just made PM management disabled, and not eating into any resources14:22
holsteinbut, thats just me, for my work flow14:22
holsteinotherwise, on laptops, etc, where i *do* want it, i'll do something similar to what i list above, and try and isolate, and test.. making sure the harware is capable of what i want in linux.. which, you say you know, since, it *used* to work as you want14:22
wolftunenot sure why I find that almost offensive14:22
wolftuneyeah14:23
holsteinyou find the machine performance offensive?14:23
wolftunethe thing about kernel update that disabled PM being desired for you14:23
holsteinwell, i dont make a kernel... im just saying, it can be quite relative, and noting hardware support being key14:24
holsteinanyways, the fact that it did work makes it easier, usually14:24
wolftuneyeah14:24
holsteini would try booting an older kernel first, since, that can simply be the cause..14:24
wolftuneI could try older kernel, but I think I removed outdated ones…14:24
holsteini *always* keep the last "known good" one, around.. its standard practice with a linux install14:25
wolftunewell, if everything seems fine at first…14:25
wolftuneand I commonly do the remove unnecessary packages thing…14:26
holsteinah.. the relevent details :)14:26
wolftunewell, gonna test a restart… thanks for the help and pointers14:26
holsteinanyways, the space that removing an older kernel affords should be considered14:26
holsteini mean, how much space is that taking up? in a production environment.. its likely quite small considering14:26
holsteinespecially when it can answer these questions quickly.. and,when issues happen with a kernel upgrade, you have a known-good backup..14:27
wolftunesure14:27
wolftuneokay, back in a bit14:28
holsteinif the power went off mid kernel upgrade, for example.. this woulg go from "crap".. to, "oh, lemme just boot my older kernel and look about"14:28
wolftuneyeah14:30
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wolftuneholstein: I just restarted after coincidentally installing a new kernel, it seems to be working again!14:34
holstein\o/ ..and there was much rejoicing..14:36
wolftunevague guess is that it *might* relate to the fact that I had a strange kernel panic and force-restarted in the past (but not just now)… because I think I have something loose in my SATA connection or some other hardware thing I'm not finding time to deal with…14:36
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JackWinteri keep several kernels installed and configured in the boot manager, like that it's easy to boot another one and see how it works.  but needs some hands on to setup :)16:42
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