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| daeavelwyn | falktx: were you serious when you talked about implementing midi channel filter in carla ? | 12:43 |
| falktx | yes | 12:43 |
| daeavelwyn | ok, I think it's a good news for me :) | 12:43 |
| falktx | since the midi-splitter doesn't work in patchbay mode, we need something else | 12:43 |
| falktx | maybe I can do this little one before packing... | 12:44 |
| daeavelwyn | As you wish :) | 12:44 |
| daeavelwyn | it seems musescore 2.0 will be release without chan/port assignation | 12:45 |
| daeavelwyn | probably this will come later | 12:45 |
| daeavelwyn | so if I can avoid headaches using qmidiroute on linux and pizmidi on windows, i'd, of course, really appreciate | 12:46 |
| daeavelwyn | but i'm not hurry :) | 12:46 |
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| hlblyhipy | goodmorning can someone help me with tux guitar | 14:29 |
| falktx | depends, what's the issue | 14:30 |
| hlblyhipy | no sound i have timidity installed gervil wont work and it seems nor will my midi | 14:30 |
| hlblyhipy | was away from my computer for a month and just started using kx studio i love it and have already made a donation | 14:32 |
| falktx | nice, thanks | 14:33 |
| falktx | hlblyhipy: have you tried qsynth yet? | 14:34 |
| hlblyhipy | well i have qsynth but dont know how to use it with tuxg | 14:38 |
| hlblyhipy | by the way you guys helped me when i first installed kx and its great but for me a huge learning curve dont know midi very well | 14:39 |
| hlblyhipy | when i try gervil it says midi system unavailable | 14:43 |
| hlblyhipy | then i switch to tux sequencer and midi system through port 0,still nothing | 14:44 |
| falktx | do you know the difference between alsa-midi and jack-midi ? | 14:45 |
| hlblyhipy | i have the alsa and java plugins enabled too | 14:45 |
| falktx | you'll need tuxguitar-jack for it to work on kxstudio | 14:45 |
| hlblyhipy | i think jack midi is my bridge in carla correct | 14:45 |
| hlblyhipy | sorry i meant cadence | 14:46 |
| hlblyhipy | alsa midi bridge is running | 14:46 |
| falktx | is tuxguitar set to use jack in its preferences? | 14:47 |
| hlblyhipy | dont know where are the preferences | 14:49 |
| falktx | tools -> settings | 14:49 |
| falktx | sound | 14:49 |
| falktx | both combo-boxes should have the "jack" part selected | 14:50 |
| hlblyhipy | ok under that all i have is realtime seq or tuxg seq | 14:50 |
| falktx | did you install tuxguitar-jack ? | 14:50 |
| falktx | with this setup, tuxguitar will have jack-midi port | 14:51 |
| falktx | you can connect that port to anything that makes sound, like carla, zynaddsubfx, qsynth, etc | 14:51 |
| hlblyhipy | oh my god i dont think i did i got tux from muon | 14:51 |
| falktx | sudo apt-get install tuxguitar-jack | 14:51 |
| hlblyhipy | ok thats installed | 14:54 |
| hlblyhipy | be right back | 14:55 |
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| hlblyhipy | whats the command to purge pulse audio,i know i got rid of it before but for some reason its back | 14:58 |
| falktx | sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio* | 14:59 |
| falktx | the last asterisk is important | 14:59 |
| hlblyhipy | ya i remeber the asteriks i dont know how pulse keeps showing up I know it must be something im doing but dont know how | 15:00 |
| hlblyhipy | ok i set jack midi in tux and the midi bridge is running how do i assign a synth to the jack port | 15:03 |
| falktx | one of the easiest ways is trough carla | 15:04 |
| falktx | install carla-git | 15:04 |
| falktx | open carla, drag&drop an sf2 file in there | 15:05 |
| falktx | then in the patchbay connect tuxguitar red midi port to the sf2 midi port | 15:05 |
| falktx | and connect the sf2 audio ports to the system playback ones | 15:05 |
| hlblyhipy | it says carla is installed already | 15:08 |
| falktx | ok good, then just start and drag a sf2 file in its window | 15:09 |
| hlblyhipy | well never used carla before so im going to have to do a little research but you've gotten me much furthur than i was ill come back later thank you | 15:15 |
| hlblyhipy | there is a box in the carla canvas labeled fluidr3gm the left and right outputs are conn to system playbakc so far that should be right correct | 15:19 |
| hlblyhipy | tux g is conn to midi through playback through port 0 | 15:20 |
| hlblyhipy | a2j | 15:20 |
| falktx | you don't need midi-through or a2j for this | 15:21 |
| falktx | connect the tuxguitar red midi port directly to the fluid3gm port | 15:21 |
| hlblyhipy | got audio thank you so much.I apologize for my utter lack of knowledge in this lol | 15:23 |
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| falktx | daeavelwyn: the midi channel plugin works! | 15:36 |
| falktx | daeavelwyn: also somehow I missed the patchbay plugins not getting anything but channel 1, now fixed too | 15:36 |
| * falktx builds new binaries | 15:36 | |
| falktx | we're very very close to release | 15:37 |
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| falktx | daeavelwyn: new win builds, please test if you can https://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudio/files/Releases/carla/testing/ | 15:51 |
| LAbot | Title: KXStudio - Browse /Releases/carla/testing at SourceForge.net (at sourceforge.net) | 15:51 |
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| daeavelwyn | falktx: yeah ! | 16:04 |
| daeavelwyn | graet news | 16:04 |
| daeavelwyn | i gonna make a test now on win8 | 16:04 |
| daeavelwyn | could I expect this functionality on kx repos now ? | 16:04 |
| falktx | yes, update coming soon | 16:04 |
| daeavelwyn | :) | 16:05 |
| daeavelwyn | i'll test and let you know | 16:05 |
| falktx | if it doesn't work, fill a bug report | 16:06 |
| falktx | I'm going to start packing things now, so not sure when I'm going to be online again | 16:07 |
| falktx | I'll try to check in when I can | 16:07 |
| falktx | laters! | 16:07 |
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| daeavelwyn | ok | 16:08 |
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| zendrix | hey guys, how is everyone doing today? | 16:44 |
| zendrix | heay falktx, I am curious as to why you took down my addition of kxstudio on wiki, not angry, just wondering what I did wrong :) | 16:48 |
| zendrix | its a shame, not really much action in here anymore | 16:49 |
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| zendrix | sup war | 16:50 |
| zendrix | anyone here? | 16:53 |
| zendrix | bon jour war, commo ce va? | 16:54 |
| zendrix | anyone have a good way to optimize kxstudio so that one can use mulab and patch it through carla for eqing and mastering? | 16:59 |
| zendrix | i dont think I am the onlyone that uses mulab | 16:59 |
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| zendrix_ | anyone here that is awake? | 17:16 |
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| daeavelwyn | zendrix: yes | 17:23 |
| daeavelwyn | :) | 17:23 |
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| daeavelwyn | falktx is not around for now | 17:23 |
| zendrix__ | ok | 17:24 |
| daeavelwyn | what was your addition talked about ? | 17:24 |
| zendrix__ | ? | 17:24 |
| zendrix__ | oh the wiki | 17:24 |
| daeavelwyn | yes :) | 17:24 |
| zendrix__ | I noticed that kxstudio was not on one of the pages thaat mentioned notable distrobutions | 17:25 |
| zendrix__ | so I tried to add it | 17:25 |
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| daeavelwyn | O_o, which wiki are you talking about ? | 17:25 |
| zendrix__ | wikipedia | 17:26 |
| daeavelwyn | oh ok ^^ | 17:26 |
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| zendrix__ | that stuff is still new to me so i sent off a reply because I get lost with the correct porcedure to submit | 17:27 |
| zendrix__ | new links and such | 17:27 |
| daeavelwyn | ok ok | 17:28 |
| zendrix__ | might you be able to help me with something dae? | 17:29 |
| daeavelwyn | zendrix__: If I can...what your problem ? | 17:33 |
| zendrix__ | well here is the sitchuation that I have put myself into.... | 17:34 |
| zendrix__ | being that I am a tweaker, I installed the mint repos after i installed the kxs repos | 17:35 |
| zendrix__ | then i installed the cinammon mate desktop (works like a charm) | 17:35 |
| zendrix__ | I then switched over to lxde for the display manager | 17:36 |
| zendrix__ | now I want to go back to kdm and the plasma just for graphical stability | 17:36 |
| zendrix__ | any ideas as to how one may do a fresh install understanding that now there are broken packages | 17:37 |
| daeavelwyn | ideas, yes...but not easier than making a fresh install... | 17:38 |
| zendrix__ | understandable | 17:38 |
| daeavelwyn | in fact, you can switch to a console mode | 17:38 |
| daeavelwyn | (ctrl+F1) | 17:38 |
| zendrix__ | yup got that | 17:38 |
| daeavelwyn | then uninstall every graphical stuff (kde / lxde / gnome...) | 17:39 |
| daeavelwyn | then remove unwanted repos | 17:39 |
| daeavelwyn | directly by editing /etc/apt/sources.list | 17:39 |
| daeavelwyn | or deleting files in the /etc/apt/sources.lis.d/ | 17:39 |
| daeavelwyn | sudo apt-get update | 17:39 |
| daeavelwyn | sudo apt-get autoremove | 17:40 |
| daeavelwyn | then reinstall kx repositories | 17:40 |
| daeavelwyn | as describe in the documentation | 17:40 |
| daeavelwyn | then reinstall kx missing packages | 17:40 |
| daeavelwyn | .... | 17:40 |
| daeavelwyn | honestly if you aren't familiar with linux and don't want to wast your time | 17:41 |
| daeavelwyn | and have no specific stuff to keep | 17:41 |
| daeavelwyn | i mean configuration stuff | 17:41 |
| daeavelwyn | make a clean install | 17:41 |
| daeavelwyn | and during the installation, in my opinion, you should make a manual partitionning | 17:42 |
| daeavelwyn | to separate your system from your /home | 17:42 |
| daeavelwyn | what's your hardware configuration ? | 17:42 |
| zendrix__ | ahh yes so you dont loose anything if this type of thing happens again | 17:42 |
| daeavelwyn | SSD drive ? How many RAM ? | 17:42 |
| zendrix__ | no ssd,.... i wish :D | 17:43 |
| daeavelwyn | and RAM ? | 17:43 |
| zendrix__ | 3 monitor, 8 g ddr3 amd fx 8core @3.2 | 17:44 |
| daeavelwyn | héhéh, just lack an SSD ;) | 17:44 |
| daeavelwyn | ok, so, here is the partitionning I suggest : | 17:44 |
| zendrix__ | 2 saphire cards (1 singal out the other for dual out) | 17:45 |
| zendrix__ | ssd would be great | 17:45 |
| zendrix__ | :D | 17:45 |
| daeavelwyn | Partition 1 : Ext4 as fstype, about 10Go | 17:45 |
| daeavelwyn | Partition 2 : linux Swap, 1Go should be enough in your case | 17:45 |
| zendrix | ok | 17:45 |
| daeavelwyn | Partition 3 : Ext4 and the rest of your disk space | 17:46 |
| daeavelwyn | you put the slash mount point "/" on your first partition | 17:46 |
| zendrix | part 1 as root? | 17:46 |
| zendrix | lol | 17:46 |
| zendrix | ok | 17:46 |
| daeavelwyn | and your /home mount point in your third partition | 17:46 |
| daeavelwyn | yes | 17:46 |
| daeavelwyn | :) | 17:46 |
| daeavelwyn | last question, you have a legacy bios or an UEFI ? | 17:47 |
| zendrix | legacy trying to figure out openbios configurations without blowing my board out of the water | 17:47 |
| zendrix | have you had any luck with that? | 17:48 |
| zendrix | why do you ask? | 17:49 |
| daeavelwyn | I'm asking because UEFI could caus problem regarding the GTP partition table, no problem with legacy bios | 17:51 |
| daeavelwyn | i'm looking for an article about configuration optimisation for you, but can't find | 17:51 |
| daeavelwyn | :-/ | 17:51 |
| zendrix | thank you very much :) | 17:52 |
| daeavelwyn | what's your native language | 17:53 |
| daeavelwyn | ? | 17:53 |
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| zendrix | english but I can use my translate system, so that is not a problem :) | 17:54 |
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| zendrix | this has been a great help so far | 17:54 |
| zendrix | I thank you very much for your help | 17:55 |
| daeavelwyn | here is a short summary : http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/jack_configuration#rtirq_configuration | 17:55 |
| daeavelwyn | BTW linuxaudio.org is a good ressources, also irc chan such as opensourcemusicians | 17:55 |
| daeavelwyn | or http://linuxmusicians.com/ | 17:56 |
| LAbot | Title: LinuxMusicians Index page (at linuxmusicians.com) | 17:56 |
| daeavelwyn | people there have been really helpful with me :) | 17:56 |
| daeavelwyn | so, i have to go | 17:56 |
| daeavelwyn | bbl | 17:56 |
| spectromas | anyone know what this means? CarlaRingBuffer::tryRead(00aef6d0, 4): failed, not enough space | 17:57 |
| zendrix | thank you dae | 17:58 |
| zendrix | spec give me one sec, I think I had that not to long ago | 17:58 |
| zendrix | how much memory do you have and what is your sample rate set at in jack? | 17:59 |
| spectromas | zendrix: I have 4gb ram and I use 48khz | 18:00 |
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| spectromas | ram doesn't seem to be running out or anything | 18:01 |
| zendrix | what about video? | 18:02 |
| spectromas | AMD/ATI RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4330/4350/4550] | 18:02 |
| zendrix | sorry about the delay, im checking on things here for you | 18:02 |
| spectromas | no worries, I appreciate the help | 18:02 |
| zendrix | carla 1 or carla 2? | 18:02 |
| spectromas | carla 2, latest git pull more or less | 18:03 |
| zendrix | ok | 18:03 |
| zendrix | interesting, are you by chance using an external audio system? | 18:05 |
| spectromas | no, this is all internal | 18:05 |
| spectromas | I'm wondering it is it just wine, doesn't seem to happen with native stuff | 18:05 |
| zendrix | ok so that is good, what is the card? | 18:05 |
| zendrix | running 64 or 32? | 18:06 |
| zendrix | bit that is | 18:07 |
| zendrix | im wondering now if it may be the carla bridge | 18:07 |
| spectromas | it's a Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller | 18:08 |
| spectromas | wine 32 bit | 18:08 |
| zendrix | what about the os? | 18:09 |
| spectromas | I don't know, I was trying to run the plugin bridged in renoise but it kept freezing in there as well | 18:09 |
| spectromas | funtoo | 18:09 |
| zendrix | just open cadence real quick | 18:09 |
| spectromas | oh OS 64 bit | 18:09 |
| zendrix | ok look into that | 18:10 |
| zendrix | have you installed the Carla win32 bridge | 18:10 |
| zendrix | ahhhhh.... this might be wineasio | 18:12 |
| zendrix | nvm that last one, i dont think thats it | 18:12 |
| zendrix | how do you have the patchbay set up | 18:13 |
| spectromas | nothing set up, just load the effect and try to open the gui, nothing happens | 18:13 |
| spectromas | looks like no wine stuff is working | 18:13 |
| zendrix | ok so that might lead me back to the carla bridge 32bit | 18:14 |
| spectromas | let me have a look | 18:14 |
| zendrix | can you open synaptic and tell me if it there.... :D thanks | 18:14 |
| spectromas | zendrix: I don't use synaptic. I seem to remember I had to manually install the bridge files so maybe they need to be updated, I do have them though | 18:16 |
| zendrix | ok, do you do eveything the apt-get way? | 18:17 |
| spectromas | I use gentoo based distro zendrix | 18:20 |
| zendrix | emerg hello :D | 18:21 |
| spectromas | haha | 18:21 |
| spectromas | yeap | 18:22 |
| zendrix | i remember starting off with gentoo on a stage one tarball 16 years ago | 18:23 |
| zendrix | i had never used linux before | 18:23 |
| zendrix | wow talk about bashing my head into a wall at ungoddly speeds over and over and over.... :D | 18:23 |
| zendrix | on the other hand, im sorry to say this, but as for now, I cant find anything specific. | 18:25 |
| spectromas | haha yeah I can imagine that must have been a painful experience with hardware from 16 years ago! | 18:25 |
| spectromas | no worries zendrix | 18:25 |
| spectromas | appreciate the help anyway | 18:25 |
| zendrix | np | 18:27 |
| zendrix | the only reason that I can't continue right now is that I have to get ready for work. | 18:27 |
| zendrix | every one have a great day, peace out | 18:29 |
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| JackWinter | spectromas: if you have wineasio problems i might be able to help, but on the other hand it's pretty solid once you get it installed :) | 18:30 |
| spectromas | JackWinter: I think there is a little issue with carla and a separate issue with a particular plugins, don't think it's wineasio though | 18:37 |
| JackWinter | i really have to build all the kxstudio apps some day (archlinux), but it kinda looks like all the buildscripts are really old | 18:39 |
| JackWinter | i mostly did cadene-git the other day, but that isn't very useful all on it's own | 18:40 |
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| JackWinter | i ought to put it all as binaries on the archaudio repo someday, but the more packaging duties you take on, the more work you have :) | 18:41 |
| spectromas | you should come and do a bit for gentoo JackWinter, I think they are further behind in this area ;) | 18:41 |
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| spectromas | I just don't have the skills or knowledge to do a great deal in packaging | 18:42 |
| JackWinter | hmm, gentoo was my choice and i did try to install and failed, my experience didn't match up to the installation instructions.. with archlinux it was easy. i kinda like having a rolling distro and use binaries for most stuff. then i build the software that really interests me, or that i want to customize | 18:43 |
| spectromas | yeah I was at a cross roads, it was either gentoo/funtoo or arch, I went the funtoo way and not sure I could go back to binaries now | 18:45 |
| JackWinter | unfortunately it's systemd or more or less nothing, i'm still not convinced and keep having regressions for years from it now. kinda makes me think that archlinux isn't what it used to be, but on the other hand it really is a good distro and mostly works excellently | 18:45 |
| JackWinter | it's very seldom that i have problems, and about half of them are home made :) | 18:46 |
| JackWinter | but what is very nice with our os' is that we can puzzle it together as we want. start with a kernel and core programs, and then just add what you want and need | 18:49 |
| JackWinter | s/os'/distos | 18:49 |
| spectromas | yeah I don't think arch is bad. I remember experiencing silly little bugs with systemd and I'm glad to be rid of it. It's kind of funny when you use a source based distro with control over use flags and dependencies, it makes you look at arch differently. The whole 'minimal' and KISS stuff is kind of not really true | 18:50 |
| JackWinter | it used to be kinda KISS and more than anything UNIX, but i get the impression that systemd is sort of mickey mouse :) | 18:54 |
| JackWinter | i have to relearn config stuff that i've known for more than 20 years... | 18:54 |
| JackWinter | and sometimes nowday i have no idea where to start trouble shooting. but i suppose it's my own fault for not keeping up :) | 18:55 |
| spectromas | it changes so fast though | 18:56 |
| JackWinter | and i find systemd complicated and convoluted to use | 18:56 |
| spectromas | thankfully we still have a choice so far, don't know how long that will last though | 18:59 |
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| JackWinter | well that's kind of up to all of us. distros need man hours so either we contribute or only use..:) | 19:06 |
| JackWinter | look at all that falktx has achieved, not bad for a single guy | 19:07 |
| spectromas | well in the case of systemd I think they are making it as difficult as they can to lock everything in to it but yeah I agree, a bit of effort goes a long way | 19:10 |
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| daeavelwyn | falktx: midi channel router doesn't work for me on w 8.1 :-/ | 20:30 |
| daeavelwyn | but, i perhaps doesn't use it as it should | 20:30 |
| daeavelwyn | If I understand right, left column number is the input channel | 20:32 |
| daeavelwyn | and right drop-down list is the channel I want to assign as the output | 20:32 |
| daeavelwyn | al I right ? | 20:32 |
| daeavelwyn | s/al/am/ | 20:32 |
| falktx | channel router? | 20:38 |
| falktx | where is that? | 20:38 |
| daeavelwyn | midi channel filter | 20:42 |
| daeavelwyn | sorry | 20:42 |
| falktx | the midi channel filter has 16 parameters | 20:43 |
| daeavelwyn | but i use it to route signal from channel 1 to 3 for example | 20:43 |
| falktx | the plugin doesn't do that | 20:43 |
| daeavelwyn | oh, that's the reason it doesn't work ^^ | 20:43 |
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| daeavelwyn | falktx: do you know a way to route channels inside carla ? | 20:56 |
| falktx | perhaps pizmidi has some plugin for it? | 20:58 |
| falktx | http://thepiz.org/plugins/?p=midiChs | 21:00 |
| LAbot | Title: Insert Piz Here - midiChs (at thepiz.org) | 21:00 |
| falktx | 32bit only I think | 21:00 |
| falktx | 64bit plugins here http://thepiz.org/pizmidi/pizmidi_x64.zip | 21:01 |
| falktx | daeavelwyn: on kxstudio there's pizmidi-plugins as native vst. for windows use those links | 21:01 |
| falktx | daeavelwyn: I'm almost sure that plugin does what you want | 21:02 |
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| falktx | the 64bit version doesn't have a gui, but should still work | 21:04 |
| daeavelwyn | falktx: ok, thanks, i'll guve a try later, for the moment, i have to find foods...let's go for a crazy exploration of my fridge :p | 21:04 |
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