ahellquist | falktx, Ok, so i will have to re-connect my things and re-save, no problem | 00:03 |
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falktx | ahellquist: if it still happens let me know | 00:03 |
falktx | I'm doing this part of the code right now :) | 00:03 |
ahellquist | falktx, sure, I will check but got to sleep. no worries | 00:04 |
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falktx | I think it's done | 02:13 |
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falktx | music to celebrate! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQnI9OBDVrg | 02:27 |
LAbot | Title: Most Wondrous Battle Music Ever: Numquam Vincar - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) | 02:27 |
falktx | ahellquist: the upcoming carla-git 1.9.5~git20150224 package should save&restore all type of connections | 02:29 |
falktx | ahellquist: both internal and external (say carla patchbay + external jack). if not let me know | 02:29 |
falktx | this finally allows to use the patchbay mode on non-jack drivers, including MIDI | 02:30 |
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WTS | falktx, great progress! :D | 10:13 |
WTS | grats, i will share in your wondrous battle anthem now! | 10:13 |
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louigi | Hey everyone! How are things | 12:40 |
falktx | good, the newest carla update brings the patchbay mode to non-jack drivers finally | 12:40 |
falktx | I removed the "experimental" label from those | 12:40 |
falktx | and I'm preparing to leave | 12:41 |
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daeavelwyn | hi here | 15:34 |
falktx | hi | 15:34 |
daeavelwyn | falktx: i just installed the last carla from git in the repos | 15:34 |
daeavelwyn | and stil have this issue : | 15:35 |
daeavelwyn | CarlaRingBuffer::tryWrite(0x7fe4c90d1e9c, 4): failed, not enough space | 15:35 |
falktx | with kontakt right? | 15:35 |
daeavelwyn | the strange thing is that carla continue working | 15:35 |
daeavelwyn | yes | 15:35 |
daeavelwyn | but i just have xruns | 15:36 |
daeavelwyn | could this be more a kontakt issue than a carlo one ? | 15:36 |
daeavelwyn | carla* | 15:36 |
falktx | only if kontakt is blocking something | 15:36 |
daeavelwyn | hmmm what do you mean by blocking ? | 15:37 |
falktx | what happens here is that carla is sending messages all the time to the plugin bridge | 15:37 |
falktx | the plugin bridge needs to be "alive" to report those messages as received | 15:37 |
falktx | if something happens that prevents the bridge from idling, it will stop receiving messages | 15:38 |
falktx | this usually happens during save | 15:38 |
falktx | or load | 15:38 |
falktx | for those I added a special case | 15:38 |
falktx | alex had kontakt taking ~1m to save | 15:38 |
daeavelwyn | is that could be cause by the use of jackass32 instead of 64 ? | 15:40 |
falktx | nah | 15:40 |
falktx | have you tried it in carla-single yet? | 15:41 |
daeavelwyn | coult it be happen if kontakt load samples during playback ? | 15:41 |
daeavelwyn | falktx: i gonna try now :) | 15:41 |
daeavelwyn | oh, so, i just saw single was already enabled | 15:42 |
daeavelwyn | so it happens with carla-single | 15:42 |
daeavelwyn | falktx: another issue is that carla doesn't load every kontakt instance | 15:45 |
daeavelwyn | it stays idle like that : http://i.imgur.com/R1ZXCz2.png | 15:45 |
daeavelwyn | even waiting half-an hour doesn't work | 15:45 |
daeavelwyn | could it be the same kind of problem ? | 15:46 |
falktx | check the command-line output | 15:46 |
falktx | if you run carla in a terminal it should be printing some info that will help debug this | 15:46 |
daeavelwyn | falktx: yes | 15:50 |
daeavelwyn | i made other test | 15:50 |
daeavelwyn | and it seems carla doesn't load kontakt instance | 15:50 |
daeavelwyn | when kontakt is trying to load a big sample library | 15:51 |
daeavelwyn | here is the outpu i got : carla_get_program_name(5, -1) - programId out of bounds | 15:51 |
daeavelwyn | written in red | 15:51 |
daeavelwyn | but it only happens on the kontakt instance with this huge sample library | 15:51 |
daeavelwyn | lighter sample lib on other kontakt instance works very well | 15:52 |
daeavelwyn | is there a kind of timeout blocking the load ? | 15:52 |
falktx | there is a timeout of 2mins | 15:53 |
daeavelwyn | falktx: and finaly, after a while, the CarlaRingBuffer message appears too | 15:53 |
daeavelwyn | oh, so probably after 2 mins :) | 15:53 |
daeavelwyn | Could it be my computer that isn't strong enough ? | 15:54 |
falktx | maybe | 15:55 |
falktx | but heck, 2 minutes to load a single plugin instance?? | 15:55 |
falktx | well, more than 2 minutes | 15:55 |
daeavelwyn | hmm the fact is the same plugins set succeed in loading in reaper | 15:56 |
daeavelwyn | and take less than 30 seconds :-/ | 15:56 |
daeavelwyn | probably less than 20 even | 15:56 |
falktx | maybe the chunk to base64 conversion is what is taking so long | 15:58 |
falktx | daeavelwyn: can you zip & upload your carxp project file? | 15:58 |
daeavelwyn | falktx: yes Sir :) | 15:58 |
daeavelwyn | falktx: here it is : http://public.harann-university.org/carla-orchestral-template02.carxp.zip | 15:59 |
falktx | I'll check this in a few mins | 16:01 |
JosheN | falktx, yo can I ask u a couple of questions? | 16:04 |
JosheN | :) | 16:04 |
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falktx | JosheN: sure | 16:04 |
JosheN | How can I use Carla2 with Bitwig ? | 16:05 |
JosheN | I saw in a screenshot , that Bitwig and Carla working togehter if i'm not mistaken | 16:06 |
JosheN | Im interested in what I could do with Carla and Bitwig | 16:06 |
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JosheN | should i install the carla-vst from the repositories ? | 16:09 |
daeavelwyn | JosheN: you are using bitwig on linux ? | 16:10 |
JosheN | yes | 16:10 |
daeavelwyn | oh? with wine or is there a native version ? | 16:10 |
JosheN | There is a Linux version of Bitwig =)) | 16:10 |
daeavelwyn | ni to hear :) | 16:10 |
JosheN | that's the thing :) | 16:10 |
JosheN | yeah it's awesome | 16:10 |
daeavelwyn | nice* | 16:11 |
daeavelwyn | and it works with jack ? | 16:11 |
daeavelwyn | I mean you can see bitwig instance in a patchbay ? | 16:11 |
JosheN | But as I'm learning both Linux from scratch and all that is coming with that , also I'm learning to use various tools | 16:11 |
JosheN | yeah it is working with Jack | 16:11 |
JosheN | as an instance | 16:11 |
JosheN | yepp | 16:11 |
JosheN | falktx, should I install the carla-vst ? | 16:12 |
daeavelwyn | ok, so there is futher way to use carla with | 16:12 |
daeavelwyn | JosheN: if you want carla loade inside bitwig | 16:12 |
falktx | JosheN: yes, install carla-vst | 16:12 |
JosheN | I guess I could use Carla as a VST plugin tool for the non-compliant plugs to work with Bitwig. Am I right | 16:12 |
JosheN | ok | 16:12 |
falktx | I don't use bitwig so please report any issues | 16:13 |
JosheN | yes , I will | 16:13 |
JosheN | =) | 16:13 |
daeavelwyn | JosheN: but you can also use an audio project session manager such as non-session or claudi or gladish | 16:13 |
JosheN | U mean , like an audio editor ? | 16:13 |
daeavelwyn | then add bitwig to your project and carla as another instance of your project | 16:13 |
daeavelwyn | and then link them inside a patchbay and save the project | 16:13 |
JosheN | wow , sounds deeply advanced | 16:14 |
JosheN | u mean that i could use a virtual "rack" inside bitwig | 16:14 |
daeavelwyn | not so, just another way of doing the same thing :) | 16:14 |
JosheN | ? | 16:14 |
JosheN | that's what i want to do with carla and bitwig | 16:14 |
daeavelwyn | hmmmm, oh, so, not shure this can work as well in this case | 16:14 |
daeavelwyn | sure* | 16:15 |
falktx | no need for session managers if using a single host | 16:15 |
JosheN | ok , but one thing at a time )=) | 16:15 |
daeavelwyn | :) | 16:16 |
JosheN | falktx, ok like Bitwig is the only thing i need | 16:16 |
JosheN | hmm icouldn't find the carla-vst in the repo | 16:16 |
falktx | well, it's there | 16:16 |
falktx | make sure you have everything updated | 16:16 |
JosheN | All I could find was carla-vst bridge | 16:18 |
JosheN | carla-bridge-wine | 16:18 |
JosheN | something | 16:18 |
JosheN | I use these repos , http://ppa.launchpad.net/kxstudio-debian/apps/ubuntu | 16:19 |
LAbot | Title: Index of /kxstudio-debian/apps/ubuntu (at ppa.launchpad.net) | 16:19 |
falktx | how did you add the repos? | 16:20 |
JosheN | I don't remember :p | 16:20 |
falktx | maybe you didn't follow the official instructions | 16:20 |
JosheN | Maybe not :) | 16:20 |
JosheN | ok gonna try again then | 16:20 |
falktx | JosheN: you should follow http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Repositories#Ubuntu and nothing else | 16:20 |
LAbot | Title: KXStudio : Repositories (at kxstudio.sourceforge.net) | 16:20 |
JosheN | thanks alot | 16:23 |
JosheN | So , could I remove the PPA repo links in the "settings" in Ubuntu now ? | 16:24 |
JosheN | in the "other software" tab | 16:24 |
JosheN | NVM :D | 16:25 |
daeavelwyn | JosheN: I wonder if you shouldn't first add official repos, then make upgrade | 16:25 |
daeavelwyn | and finaly remove the old you got | 16:25 |
JosheN | daeavelwyn, I think the first commands in the guide he linked was to purge the old ones | 16:26 |
JosheN | If I understand correctly , they where purged ? | 16:26 |
JosheN | but now I have some other PPA repo links in the other software tab | 16:26 |
JosheN | some for lucid distro , some for trusty | 16:26 |
daeavelwyn | JosheN: you are right :) there too manu time i'm using kxstudio as i even never read this guide :p | 16:27 |
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JosheN | Nice =) I'm not a total idiot anymore :D | 16:27 |
daeavelwyn | :) | 16:27 |
JosheN | hehe , joking but Linux is nice ... Tho it can be messy | 16:27 |
daeavelwyn | in fact, the only problem that could occur is you wil have programs marked as localy/obsolete in your package manager | 16:28 |
daeavelwyn | and sometimes it could create some buggy dependencies issues | 16:28 |
daeavelwyn | but it seems falktx anticipate this case :) | 16:29 |
daeavelwyn | anticipates* | 16:29 |
JosheN | Okey , yah I think I got that and I use Synpatic | 16:29 |
JosheN | Synaptic | 16:29 |
daeavelwyn | anticipated* | 16:29 |
JosheN | haha | 16:29 |
daeavelwyn | damned english is quite a hard language ! | 16:29 |
JosheN | And , if I understand correctly all I need to clean up is the apt-get command and / or Synaptic | 16:30 |
daeavelwyn | yes, synaptic is my favorite one (even if kde integration is really ugly) | 16:30 |
falktx | JosheN: lucid, etc it's all expected | 16:30 |
falktx | JosheN: just stick with those instructions and don't deviate | 16:30 |
JosheN | daeavelwyn, do you know if changing the compositor in Ubuntu could improve my gaming OpenGL performance ? :) | 16:30 |
falktx | a lot of users think they're very smart and end up messing up the system :( | 16:30 |
daeavelwyn | use apt-get or aptitude if you make things in a command line, use synaptic if you want a grphical interface :) | 16:30 |
JosheN | falktx, I read alot of guides and I'm a little afraid of messing about with too much | 16:31 |
JosheN | daeavelwyn, spot on | 16:31 |
JosheN | I undertstand that synaptic uses the apt-get commands only | 16:31 |
daeavelwyn | JosheN: mainly, but i read some improvement have been taken from aptitude | 16:32 |
daeavelwyn | i'd rather aptitude instead of apt-get because it affords a better dependencies treatment IMO | 16:32 |
daeavelwyn | but the generic command is apt-get | 16:33 |
JosheN | Ok nice to know. | 16:34 |
falktx | alright, the osx build seems to work fine | 16:47 |
falktx | https://i.imgur.com/0RKVZlI.png | 16:47 |
daeavelwyn | glad to hear :) | 16:48 |
falktx | now let's see that project file | 16:49 |
daeavelwyn | let me know if you want more informations/tests | 16:50 |
falktx | daeavelwyn: are you using carla from the repos or your own build? | 16:51 |
daeavelwyn | from the repos | 16:52 |
falktx | I'll have to write some tests | 16:53 |
falktx | but first I have to choose the clothes to take | 16:54 |
falktx | only 6 days away! | 16:54 |
daeavelwyn | lol | 16:54 |
Xzu | hello falktx. Do we have last calf in repos? | 16:54 |
falktx | Xzu: as calf-plugins-git yes | 16:55 |
falktx | Xzu: outdated by 2 small commits I think | 16:55 |
Xzu | great! thank you! | 16:55 |
JosheN | falktx, how do I get my AKAI midi controller to work with a softsynth in carla? I use Multiple Clients mode | 17:17 |
JosheN | Do I have to use JACK w ALSA-Midi ? | 17:17 |
JosheN | Linux is confusing me | 17:17 |
daeavelwyn | JosheN: do you see you controller in the patch bay ? | 17:18 |
JosheN | in the patchbay I don't have anything | 17:19 |
JosheN | That's why I don't use Ardour or the other DAW's... | 17:19 |
JosheN | In Bitwig , my controller works with the Bitwig things u know... | 17:19 |
daeavelwyn | ok, so my question is more are you sure you controller is recognized ? | 17:20 |
daeavelwyn | oh ok | 17:20 |
daeavelwyn | so it works :) | 17:20 |
JosheN | yeah it is recognized in the "connect" menu | 17:20 |
daeavelwyn | so, you have created one track | 17:20 |
daeavelwyn | and put carla as a vst plugin on, am i right ? | 17:20 |
JosheN | I made a "404 synth" | 17:20 |
JosheN | in Carla | 17:21 |
JosheN | not started Bitwig yet.. | 17:21 |
JosheN | ah nvm | 17:21 |
JosheN | I should try bitwig , i just remembered somethign | 17:21 |
daeavelwyn | ok, so you are just using carla ? | 17:21 |
JosheN | yeah atm | 17:21 |
JosheN | but I need to start Bitwig :p | 17:21 |
daeavelwyn | so, return to my first question, click the patchbay tab in carla | 17:22 |
daeavelwyn | do you see your controller ? | 17:22 |
JosheN | no | 17:25 |
falktx | you either use carla as plugin, in which case the host has the midi devices | 17:25 |
falktx | or use carla as standalone, in which case carla is the one with midi | 17:25 |
falktx | JosheN: you should activate the alsa-midi bridge | 17:25 |
falktx | run "a2j -e" | 17:25 |
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JoshN | Got disconnect :( | 17:46 |
JoshN | How do i configure carla to act as a VST instrument / effect in Bitwig for example | 17:46 |
falktx | install carla-vst | 17:47 |
JoshN | falktx, sorry if I missed your answer . I got disconnected | 17:47 |
JoshN | I did... | 17:47 |
falktx | search for vst plugins in bitwig | 17:47 |
falktx | done | 17:47 |
falktx | maybe you need to add /usr/lib/vst manually? | 17:47 |
JoshN | wich folder is carla using for vst ? | 17:47 |
JoshN | is it usr lib vst ok | 17:47 |
falktx | all vsts are in /usr/lib/vst/ for ksxtudio | 17:47 |
JoshN | ok thanks | 17:49 |
JoshN | should I use Single client mode ? | 17:49 |
daeavelwyn | JoshN: but you can put your vst in another place and set carla to use them carla settings > path then in the drop-down list choose vst | 17:49 |
falktx | JoshN: you don't need to use carla standalone | 17:51 |
JoshN | falktx, ok | 17:52 |
JoshN | trying to shutdown carla then | 17:52 |
JoshN | and re-launching bitwig | 17:52 |
JoshN | Bitwig doesn't seem to recognize the carla as vst... :( | 17:53 |
JoshN | I'm not using the latest version of Bitwig if that's an issue.. | 17:53 |
falktx | have you added /usr/lib/vst/ as a path to look for vsts ? | 17:54 |
JoshN | yes | 17:54 |
falktx | and you have carla-vst installed? | 17:54 |
JoshN | Yeah | 17:54 |
falktx | do you see any other vst plugins? | 17:54 |
JoshN | Not from that library no | 17:54 |
JoshN | But from others like MDA etc shows | 17:55 |
falktx | let me download bitwig and try | 17:56 |
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JoshN | oki =) | 17:57 |
JoshN | The thing is , the 404 synth is really nice , and the calf audio plugs too. and some others... I want to use them in Bitwig somehow | 17:57 |
JoshN | I found a way to use zynaddsubfx for example | 17:58 |
JoshN | in bitwig , with a script for bitwig called ALSA virtual midi | 17:58 |
JoshN | I think they used some other thing , like a2j2midi or something like that... | 17:59 |
JoshN | falktx, | 18:02 |
JoshN | i found | 18:02 |
JoshN | some errors | 18:02 |
JoshN | i can give u the logfile | 18:02 |
JoshN | or the specific line from carla vst | 18:02 |
falktx | whatever works for you | 18:03 |
JoshN | wrong ELFCLASS64 | 18:03 |
falktx | I think you have something wrong | 18:05 |
falktx | delete all the paths you have from bitwig scanning | 18:06 |
falktx | close bitwig | 18:06 |
falktx | and add /usr/lib/vst/ again | 18:06 |
falktx | JoshN: it's working fine here | 18:06 |
JoshN | falktx, oki nice to hear it working =) | 18:06 |
falktx | JoshN: yep, working https://i.imgur.com/VGEcjI4.png | 18:08 |
JoshN | hmm ok ... Are you using JACK ? | 18:10 |
JoshN | why isn't it working on my rig... :o | 18:10 |
falktx | it has nothing to do with audio drivers | 18:10 |
falktx | carla-vst is a vst plugin, so it will "just work" | 18:10 |
JoshN | I got it ! | 18:10 |
JoshN | Found it :D | 18:10 |
JoshN | Thanks for ur patience hehe | 18:10 |
JoshN | helpful man =) | 18:11 |
JoshN | ok so lets' play around a little | 18:11 |
JoshN | Nope not working | 18:11 |
JoshN | I found the carla.vst folder in the other tabs there , but not the acutal vst instrument | 18:13 |
JoshN | Do u think that because I'm not using the latest version of Bitwig ? | 18:13 |
falktx | doesn't hurt to try | 18:15 |
JoshN | and I'm not supposed to run carla in terminal or anything besides starting bitwig ? | 18:17 |
JoshN | because it can't load carla plugins anyhow... gonna try another version then | 18:18 |
falktx | you don't have to | 18:22 |
falktx | when you have carla as plugin, everything will be self-contained | 18:22 |
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JoshN | falktx, I got it working now ! | 18:42 |
JoshN | updated the app , and tadaa | 18:42 |
JoshN | If I want to do automation , how do I do that? | 18:42 |
falktx | not possible yet | 18:42 |
falktx | coming soon | 18:42 |
falktx | sorry :( | 18:42 |
JoshN | okey , but there is a way to live-bounce the output right ? | 18:44 |
JoshN | im not as skilled so I can't do it , u know like in ableton | 18:45 |
JoshN | they render it live | 18:45 |
JoshN | as an output when they record | 18:45 |
JoshN | great job anyhow , really really nice to have ur utilities | 18:45 |
JoshN | thanks ! | 18:45 |
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spectromas | JoshN: can't you just route one track to another and record the audio if you want to do a live bounce? | 19:03 |
JoshN | spectromas, how do i do that ? :) | 19:03 |
JoshN | that's what i meant :P | 19:03 |
JoshN | and , I only seem to get one channel mono out from carla | 19:03 |
spectromas | I don't have bitwig here JoshN but I'm pretty sure you should be able to route one track to another, in stereo | 19:05 |
JoshN | spectromas, I managed to get some automation going on :D | 19:06 |
JoshN | really cool | 19:06 |
JoshN | spectromas, ok thanks , i'm gonna look in to that... now dinner time :D | 19:06 |
spectromas | ok :) | 19:07 |
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aeLiXihr_ | hi there, since my fresh install of the latest KX my onboard sound seems to be broken(Dell Latitude D630)... any ideas, please? thank you! | 19:24 |
aeLiXihr_ | i noticed the cadence suite is not in my faforites, while on my other computer it is... | 19:25 |
aeLiXihr_ | ...do you think something went wrong during the intallation? | 19:25 |
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