Tuesday, 2015-02-24

ahellquistfalktx, Ok, so i will have to re-connect my things and re-save, no problem00:03
falktxahellquist: if it still happens let me know00:03
falktxI'm doing this part of the code right now :)00:03
ahellquistfalktx, sure, I will check but got to sleep. no worries00:04
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falktxI think it's done02:13
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falktxmusic to celebrate! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQnI9OBDVrg02:27
LAbotTitle: Most Wondrous Battle Music Ever: Numquam Vincar - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)02:27
falktxahellquist: the upcoming carla-git 1.9.5~git20150224 package should save&restore all type of connections02:29
falktxahellquist: both internal and external (say carla patchbay + external jack). if not let me know02:29
falktxthis finally allows to use the patchbay mode on non-jack drivers, including MIDI02:30
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WTSfalktx, great progress! :D10:13
WTSgrats, i will share in your wondrous battle anthem now!10:13
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louigiHey everyone! How are things12:40
falktxgood, the newest carla update brings the patchbay mode to non-jack drivers finally12:40
falktxI removed the "experimental" label from those12:40
falktxand I'm preparing to leave12:41
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daeavelwynhi here15:34
falktxhi15:34
daeavelwynfalktx: i just installed the last carla from git in the repos15:34
daeavelwynand stil have this issue :15:35
daeavelwynCarlaRingBuffer::tryWrite(0x7fe4c90d1e9c, 4): failed, not enough space15:35
falktxwith kontakt right?15:35
daeavelwynthe strange thing is that carla continue working15:35
daeavelwynyes15:35
daeavelwynbut i just have xruns15:36
daeavelwyncould this be more a kontakt issue than a carlo one ?15:36
daeavelwyncarla*15:36
falktxonly if kontakt is blocking something15:36
daeavelwynhmmm what do you mean by blocking ?15:37
falktxwhat happens here is that carla is sending messages all the time to the plugin bridge15:37
falktxthe plugin bridge needs to be "alive" to report those messages as received15:37
falktxif something happens that prevents the bridge from idling, it will stop receiving messages15:38
falktxthis usually happens during save15:38
falktxor load15:38
falktxfor those I added a special case15:38
falktxalex had kontakt taking ~1m to save15:38
daeavelwynis that could be cause by the use of jackass32 instead of 64 ?15:40
falktxnah15:40
falktxhave you tried it in carla-single yet?15:41
daeavelwyncoult it be happen if kontakt load samples during playback ?15:41
daeavelwynfalktx: i gonna try now :)15:41
daeavelwynoh, so, i just saw single was already enabled15:42
daeavelwynso it happens with carla-single15:42
daeavelwynfalktx: another issue is that carla doesn't load every kontakt instance15:45
daeavelwynit stays idle like that : http://i.imgur.com/R1ZXCz2.png15:45
daeavelwyneven waiting half-an hour doesn't work15:45
daeavelwyncould it be the same kind of problem ?15:46
falktxcheck the command-line output15:46
falktxif you run carla in a terminal it should be printing some info that will help debug this15:46
daeavelwynfalktx: yes15:50
daeavelwyni made other test15:50
daeavelwynand it seems carla doesn't load kontakt instance15:50
daeavelwynwhen kontakt is trying to load a big sample library15:51
daeavelwynhere is the outpu i got : carla_get_program_name(5, -1) - programId out of bounds15:51
daeavelwynwritten in red15:51
daeavelwynbut it only happens on the kontakt instance with this huge sample library15:51
daeavelwynlighter sample lib on other kontakt instance works very well15:52
daeavelwynis there a kind of timeout blocking the load ?15:52
falktxthere is a timeout of 2mins15:53
daeavelwynfalktx: and finaly, after a while, the CarlaRingBuffer message appears too15:53
daeavelwynoh, so probably after 2 mins :)15:53
daeavelwynCould it be my computer that isn't strong enough ?15:54
falktxmaybe15:55
falktxbut heck, 2 minutes to load a single plugin instance??15:55
falktxwell, more than 2 minutes15:55
daeavelwynhmm the fact is the same plugins set succeed in loading in reaper15:56
daeavelwyn and take less than 30 seconds :-/15:56
daeavelwynprobably less than 20 even15:56
falktxmaybe the chunk to base64 conversion is what is taking so long15:58
falktxdaeavelwyn: can you zip & upload your carxp project file?15:58
daeavelwynfalktx: yes Sir :)15:58
daeavelwynfalktx: here it is : http://public.harann-university.org/carla-orchestral-template02.carxp.zip15:59
falktxI'll check this in a few mins16:01
JosheNfalktx, yo can I ask u a couple of questions?16:04
JosheN:)16:04
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falktxJosheN: sure16:04
JosheNHow can I use Carla2 with Bitwig ?16:05
JosheNI saw in a screenshot , that Bitwig and Carla working togehter if i'm not mistaken16:06
JosheNIm interested in what I could do with Carla and Bitwig16:06
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JosheNshould i install the carla-vst from the repositories ?16:09
daeavelwynJosheN: you are using bitwig on linux ?16:10
JosheNyes16:10
daeavelwynoh? with wine or is there a native version ?16:10
JosheNThere is a Linux version of Bitwig =))16:10
daeavelwynni to hear :)16:10
JosheNthat's the thing :)16:10
JosheNyeah it's awesome16:10
daeavelwynnice*16:11
daeavelwynand it works with jack ?16:11
daeavelwynI mean you can see bitwig instance in a patchbay ?16:11
JosheNBut as I'm learning both Linux from scratch and all that is coming with that , also I'm learning to use various tools16:11
JosheNyeah it is working with Jack16:11
JosheNas an instance16:11
JosheNyepp16:11
JosheNfalktx, should I install the carla-vst ?16:12
daeavelwynok, so there is futher way to use carla with16:12
daeavelwynJosheN: if you want carla loade inside bitwig16:12
falktxJosheN: yes, install carla-vst16:12
JosheNI guess I could use Carla as a VST plugin tool for the non-compliant plugs to work with Bitwig. Am I right16:12
JosheNok16:12
falktxI don't use bitwig so please report any issues16:13
JosheNyes , I will16:13
JosheN=)16:13
daeavelwynJosheN: but you can also use an audio project session manager such as non-session or claudi or gladish16:13
JosheNU mean , like an audio editor ?16:13
daeavelwynthen add bitwig to your project and carla as another instance of your project16:13
daeavelwynand then link them inside a patchbay and save the project16:13
JosheNwow , sounds deeply advanced16:14
JosheNu mean that i could use a virtual "rack" inside bitwig16:14
daeavelwynnot so, just another way of doing the same thing :)16:14
JosheN?16:14
JosheNthat's what i want to do with carla and bitwig16:14
daeavelwynhmmmm, oh, so, not shure this can work as well in this case16:14
daeavelwynsure*16:15
falktxno need for session managers if using a single host16:15
JosheNok , but one thing at a time )=)16:15
daeavelwyn:)16:16
JosheNfalktx, ok like Bitwig is the only thing i need16:16
JosheNhmm icouldn't find the carla-vst in the repo16:16
falktxwell, it's there16:16
falktxmake sure you have everything updated16:16
JosheNAll I could find was carla-vst bridge16:18
JosheNcarla-bridge-wine16:18
JosheNsomething16:18
JosheNI use these repos , http://ppa.launchpad.net/kxstudio-debian/apps/ubuntu16:19
LAbotTitle: Index of /kxstudio-debian/apps/ubuntu (at ppa.launchpad.net)16:19
falktxhow did you add the repos?16:20
JosheNI don't remember :p16:20
falktxmaybe you didn't follow the official instructions16:20
JosheNMaybe not :)16:20
JosheNok gonna try again then16:20
falktxJosheN: you should follow http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Repositories#Ubuntu and nothing else16:20
LAbotTitle: KXStudio : Repositories (at kxstudio.sourceforge.net)16:20
JosheNthanks alot16:23
JosheNSo , could I remove the PPA repo links in the "settings" in Ubuntu now ?16:24
JosheNin the "other software" tab16:24
JosheNNVM :D16:25
daeavelwynJosheN: I wonder if you shouldn't first add official repos, then make upgrade16:25
daeavelwynand finaly remove the old you got16:25
JosheNdaeavelwyn, I think the first commands in the guide he linked was to purge the old ones16:26
JosheNIf I understand correctly , they where purged ?16:26
JosheNbut now I have some other PPA repo links in the other software tab16:26
JosheNsome for lucid distro , some for trusty16:26
daeavelwynJosheN: you are right :) there too manu time i'm using kxstudio as i even never read this guide :p16:27
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JosheNNice =) I'm not a total idiot anymore :D16:27
daeavelwyn:)16:27
JosheNhehe , joking but Linux is nice ... Tho it can be messy16:27
daeavelwynin fact, the only problem that could occur is you wil have programs marked as localy/obsolete in your package manager16:28
daeavelwynand sometimes it could create some buggy dependencies issues16:28
daeavelwynbut it seems falktx anticipate this case :)16:29
daeavelwynanticipates*16:29
JosheNOkey , yah I think I got that and I use Synpatic16:29
JosheNSynaptic16:29
daeavelwynanticipated*16:29
JosheNhaha16:29
daeavelwyndamned english is quite a hard language !16:29
JosheNAnd , if I understand correctly all I need to clean up is the apt-get command and / or Synaptic16:30
daeavelwynyes, synaptic is my favorite one (even if kde integration is really ugly)16:30
falktxJosheN: lucid, etc it's all expected16:30
falktxJosheN: just stick with those instructions and don't deviate16:30
JosheNdaeavelwyn, do you know if changing the compositor in Ubuntu could improve my gaming OpenGL performance ? :)16:30
falktxa lot of users think they're very smart and end up messing up the system :(16:30
daeavelwynuse apt-get or aptitude if you make things in a command line, use synaptic if you want a grphical interface :)16:30
JosheNfalktx, I read alot of guides and I'm a little afraid of messing about with too much16:31
JosheNdaeavelwyn, spot on16:31
JosheNI undertstand that synaptic uses the apt-get commands only16:31
daeavelwynJosheN: mainly, but i read some improvement have been taken from aptitude16:32
daeavelwyni'd rather aptitude instead of apt-get because it affords a better dependencies treatment IMO16:32
daeavelwynbut the generic command is apt-get16:33
JosheNOk nice to know.16:34
falktxalright, the osx build seems to work fine16:47
falktxhttps://i.imgur.com/0RKVZlI.png16:47
daeavelwynglad to hear :)16:48
falktxnow let's see that project file16:49
daeavelwynlet me know if you want more informations/tests16:50
falktxdaeavelwyn: are you using carla from the repos or your own build?16:51
daeavelwynfrom the repos16:52
falktxI'll have to write some tests16:53
falktxbut first I have to choose the clothes to take16:54
falktxonly 6 days away!16:54
daeavelwynlol16:54
Xzuhello falktx. Do we have last calf in repos?16:54
falktxXzu: as calf-plugins-git yes16:55
falktxXzu: outdated by 2 small commits I think16:55
Xzugreat! thank you!16:55
JosheNfalktx, how do I get my AKAI midi controller to work with a softsynth in carla? I use Multiple Clients mode17:17
JosheNDo I have to use JACK w ALSA-Midi ?17:17
JosheNLinux is confusing me17:17
daeavelwynJosheN: do you see you controller in the patch bay ?17:18
JosheNin the patchbay I don't have anything17:19
JosheNThat's why I don't use Ardour or the other DAW's...17:19
JosheNIn Bitwig , my controller works with the Bitwig things u know...17:19
daeavelwynok, so my question is more are you sure you controller is recognized ?17:20
daeavelwynoh ok17:20
daeavelwynso it works :)17:20
JosheNyeah it is recognized in the "connect" menu17:20
daeavelwynso, you have created one track17:20
daeavelwynand put carla as a vst plugin on, am i right ?17:20
JosheNI made a "404 synth"17:20
JosheNin Carla17:21
JosheNnot started Bitwig yet..17:21
JosheNah nvm17:21
JosheNI should try bitwig , i just remembered somethign17:21
daeavelwynok, so you are just using carla ?17:21
JosheNyeah atm17:21
JosheNbut I need to start Bitwig :p17:21
daeavelwynso, return to my first question, click the patchbay tab in carla17:22
daeavelwyndo you see your controller ?17:22
JosheNno17:25
falktxyou either use carla as plugin, in which case the host has the midi devices17:25
falktxor use carla as standalone, in which case carla is the one with midi17:25
falktxJosheN: you should activate the alsa-midi bridge17:25
falktxrun "a2j -e"17:25
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JoshNGot disconnect :(17:46
JoshNHow do i configure carla to act as a VST instrument / effect in Bitwig for example17:46
falktxinstall carla-vst17:47
JoshNfalktx, sorry if I missed your answer . I got disconnected17:47
JoshNI did...17:47
falktxsearch for vst plugins in bitwig17:47
falktxdone17:47
falktxmaybe you need to add /usr/lib/vst manually?17:47
JoshNwich folder is carla using for vst ?17:47
JoshNis it usr lib vst ok17:47
falktxall vsts are in /usr/lib/vst/ for ksxtudio17:47
JoshNok thanks17:49
JoshNshould I use Single client mode ?17:49
daeavelwynJoshN: but you can put your vst in another place and set carla to use them carla settings > path then in the drop-down list choose vst17:49
falktxJoshN: you don't need to use carla standalone17:51
JoshNfalktx, ok17:52
JoshNtrying to shutdown carla then17:52
JoshNand re-launching bitwig17:52
JoshNBitwig doesn't seem to recognize the carla as vst... :(17:53
JoshNI'm not using the latest version of Bitwig if that's an issue..17:53
falktxhave you added /usr/lib/vst/ as a path to look for vsts ?17:54
JoshNyes17:54
falktxand you have carla-vst installed?17:54
JoshNYeah17:54
falktxdo you see any other vst plugins?17:54
JoshNNot from that library no17:54
JoshNBut from others like MDA etc shows17:55
falktxlet me download bitwig and try17:56
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JoshNoki =)17:57
JoshNThe thing is , the 404 synth is really nice , and the calf audio plugs too. and some others... I want to use them in Bitwig somehow17:57
JoshNI found a way to use zynaddsubfx for example17:58
JoshNin bitwig , with a script for bitwig called ALSA virtual midi17:58
JoshNI think they used some other thing , like a2j2midi or something like that...17:59
JoshNfalktx,18:02
JoshNi found18:02
JoshNsome errors18:02
JoshNi can give u the logfile18:02
JoshNor the specific line from carla vst18:02
falktxwhatever works for you18:03
JoshNwrong ELFCLASS6418:03
falktxI think you have something wrong18:05
falktxdelete all the paths you have from bitwig scanning18:06
falktxclose bitwig18:06
falktxand add /usr/lib/vst/ again18:06
falktxJoshN: it's working fine here18:06
JoshNfalktx, oki nice to hear it working =)18:06
falktxJoshN: yep, working https://i.imgur.com/VGEcjI4.png18:08
JoshNhmm ok ... Are you using JACK ?18:10
JoshNwhy isn't it working on my rig... :o18:10
falktxit has nothing to do with audio drivers18:10
falktxcarla-vst is a vst plugin, so it will "just work"18:10
JoshNI got it !18:10
JoshNFound it :D18:10
JoshNThanks for ur patience hehe18:10
JoshNhelpful man =)18:11
JoshNok so lets' play around a little18:11
JoshNNope not working18:11
JoshNI found the carla.vst folder in the other tabs there , but not the acutal vst instrument18:13
JoshNDo u think that because I'm not using the latest version of Bitwig ?18:13
falktxdoesn't hurt to try18:15
JoshNand I'm not supposed to run carla in terminal or anything besides starting bitwig ?18:17
JoshNbecause it can't load carla plugins anyhow... gonna try another version then18:18
falktxyou don't have to18:22
falktxwhen you have carla as plugin, everything will be self-contained18:22
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JoshNfalktx, I got it working now !18:42
JoshNupdated the app , and tadaa18:42
JoshNIf I want to do automation , how do I do that?18:42
falktxnot possible yet18:42
falktxcoming soon18:42
falktxsorry :(18:42
JoshNokey , but there is a way to live-bounce the output right ?18:44
JoshNim not as skilled so I can't do it , u know like in ableton18:45
JoshNthey render it live18:45
JoshNas an output when they record18:45
JoshNgreat job anyhow , really really nice to have ur utilities18:45
JoshNthanks !18:45
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spectromasJoshN: can't you just route one track to another and record the audio if you want to do a live bounce?19:03
JoshNspectromas, how do i do that ? :)19:03
JoshNthat's what i meant :P19:03
JoshNand , I only seem to get one channel mono out from carla19:03
spectromasI don't have bitwig here JoshN but I'm pretty sure you should be able to route one track to another, in stereo19:05
JoshNspectromas, I managed to get some automation going on :D19:06
JoshNreally cool19:06
JoshNspectromas, ok thanks , i'm gonna look in to that... now dinner time :D19:06
spectromasok :)19:07
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aeLiXihr_hi there, since my fresh install of the latest KX my onboard sound seems to be broken(Dell Latitude D630)... any ideas, please? thank you!19:24
aeLiXihr_i noticed the cadence suite is not in my faforites, while on my other computer it is...19:25
aeLiXihr_...do you think something went wrong during the intallation?19:25
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