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| daeavelwyn | JackWinter: hey really thank you ! The last trick you gave me solve latency problem with fx ! | 02:24 |
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| daeavelwyn | and i've no more xruns! | 02:24 |
| daeavelwyn | I can now begin to have fun :) | 02:25 |
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| JackWinter | daeavelwyn: the montakt multicpu or the anticipative fx processing? if the latter it has the drawback of adding latency to fx tweaking, that is to say you turn a nob and it takes a little while until you hear the change | 12:31 |
| JackWinter | s/montakt/kontakt | 12:31 |
| WTS | HarryHaaren: hi again :) i am working on a diagram illustrating of the intended setup, probably will be done later today. found out i got a good few audigy 1 / sb live value OEM cards lying around that could be of use with ALSA | 13:14 |
| WTS | mayhaps you could help me figure out what goes where (if gear suffices) later today? :) | 13:15 |
| HarryHaaren | sup WTS, cool. Generally if one soundcard will do the job, just use 1. Using multiple cards at the same time is not idea (but it is possible) | 13:15 |
| WTS | oh, good to know! i will inventarise and sketch out the gear and we can start getting more specific. i already had a major breakthrough regarding buffer underflows. turns out pulseaudio was active and ALSA too, turned the former off in alsamixer and POOF | 13:20 |
| WTS | *53 underruns in 3 minutes ---> 0 in 2 hours | 13:20 |
| HarryHaaren | yep, pulse gets in the way a little sometimes. There's ways to make it behave better, but I just don't run it unless I need it | 13:21 |
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| WTS | i gotta say i am very pleasantly surprised by ALSA after 2 years of buntu distros | 13:26 |
| daeavelwyn | JackWinter:I was speaking about the anticipative fx processing, i've already set kontakt to not use multicpu | 13:27 |
| WTS | audio so much easier to set up in pclos it seems, less stuff getting in the way. | 13:27 |
| WTS | could very well have been my repo fever friday nights back then though hehe | 13:28 |
| HarryHaaren | i think things are improving a lot too. | 13:29 |
| * HarryHaaren goes for a coffee | 13:29 | |
| WTS | no tea? :O | 13:29 |
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| scary_hallo | Hi falktx, are you there? | 14:01 |
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| scary_hallo | can anyone help me with a problem during installation of kxstudio? | 14:28 |
| WTS | i might be able to help | 14:30 |
| scary_hallo | OK. I had an old version of kxstudio on my pc. Now i mounted an addtional harddisk ans installed there a new version of kx studio | 14:31 |
| scary_hallo | After restart I see only the old version of the grub menu | 14:32 |
| WTS | did you use 14.04 live installer dvd? you will need to add it manually to grub's menu probably | 14:34 |
| scary_hallo | yes, how do I do that? | 14:34 |
| WTS | i would look up a tutorial for that using search engine of choice, i have always avoided messing with grub menus myself because of the potential to mess it up | 14:36 |
| scary_hallo | OK | 14:37 |
| WTS | i wouldn't feel comfortable walking you through it considering my own experience level with that particular bit of linux skillz | 14:37 |
| WTS | btw which grub version do you use? legacy? 2? | 14:37 |
| scary_hallo | is there an other possibility than the live installer? | 14:38 |
| scary_hallo | grub2 | 14:38 |
| WTS | well i know i was told to avoid grub2 when installing pclinuxos, it's got issues. | 14:39 |
| WTS | in pclos at least | 14:39 |
| WTS | yeah, you can just install *buntu and add KX repo, then install from there what you need using the task-(software package) metapacks | 14:40 |
| WTS | that's what I always did | 14:40 |
| scary_hallo | Ok thanks I#ll think about it | 14:40 |
| WTS | you could probably try reinstalling KX 14.04 dvd but using grub legacy if it asks you during install process | 14:42 |
| WTS | it might show up in existing menu | 14:42 |
| scary_hallo | No it did'nt ask for that | 14:42 |
| WTS | ok let me see if i can dig up some help, bbiab | 14:43 |
| WTS | did you try to change boot order of hdds btw? | 14:44 |
| scary_hallo | in bios? | 14:44 |
| WTS | yeah. might be a quick fix for you. worth a shot? | 14:44 |
| WTS | i had similar issue with separate hard disk install of two PClinuxOS distros (1 on each disk). not the most elegant fix but that worked for me. | 14:46 |
| scary_hallo | I'm afraid that's no option. I have also windows on the first disk. I need that for my job. | 14:46 |
| scary_hallo | Windows must be on the first disk | 14:46 |
| WTS | oh? switching it back when done with kx is no option? | 14:47 |
| daeavelwyn | i'm using kxstudio with grub2 without issue | 14:47 |
| WTS | so you got windows (8?) and kx old on one disk, booting via grub2 right? | 14:47 |
| daeavelwyn | scary_hallo: there are few stuff you have to be aware of | 14:48 |
| daeavelwyn | are you using a UEFI bios ? | 14:48 |
| scary_hallo | no | 14:49 |
| daeavelwyn | cool :-) | 14:49 |
| daeavelwyn | so, | 14:49 |
| daeavelwyn | can you boot on the live DVD without problems ? | 14:49 |
| scary_hallo | yes | 14:49 |
| daeavelwyn | great ! You can save your installation ;) | 14:50 |
| daeavelwyn | so | 14:50 |
| scary_hallo | I can still boot into my old kxstudio | 14:50 |
| daeavelwyn | actually, if I well understand you have 2 hardrives with an installation of kxstudio on each one ? | 14:50 |
| scary_hallo | an into the new | 14:51 |
| WTS | and if not able to boot live dvd ... there's always hiren's | 14:51 |
| scary_hallo | yes | 14:51 |
| daeavelwyn | and you want to keep the both installation ? | 14:51 |
| scary_hallo | yes (for a while) | 14:52 |
| scary_hallo | First disk: win7 and kxstudio 12.04 | 14:53 |
| scary_hallo | Second disk : data | 14:53 |
| scary_hallo | Third (new) disk : kxstudio 14.04 | 14:54 |
| scary_hallo | all is working, but I have still the old grubmenu | 14:54 |
| daeavelwyn | oh, you can boot on kxstudio 14.04 ? | 14:55 |
| scary_hallo | seems like it still looks to the old grub-confugration on startup | 14:55 |
| daeavelwyn | so you don't see the kxstudio 14.04, am I right ? that the problem you have, do I well understand ? | 14:56 |
| scary_hallo | after 'update-grub' from the old system, I can see 14.04 in the grub menu. But not as main system | 14:59 |
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| scary_hallo | it shows up as additional system | 14:59 |
| daeavelwyn | that's because you made update-grub from the 12.04 instead of 14.04 | 14:59 |
| daeavelwyn | or am I wrong ? | 14:59 |
| scary_hallo | yes understand | 14:59 |
| daeavelwyn | here is a good howto : http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd | 15:00 |
| LAbot | Title: How to Repair, Restore, or Reinstall Grub 2 with a Ubuntu Live CD or USB ยท How to Ubuntu (at howtoubuntu.org) | 15:00 |
| daeavelwyn | you have to boot from live CD | 15:00 |
| daeavelwyn | (or DVD) | 15:00 |
| daeavelwyn | and then mount your 14.04 installation in /mnt | 15:00 |
| daeavelwyn | and thent chroot to this installation | 15:00 |
| daeavelwyn | and finally run update-grub from this place | 15:01 |
| daeavelwyn | it should solve your problem | 15:01 |
| * daeavelwyn hopes it will :) | 15:01 | |
| daeavelwyn | in fact, actually grub is probably installed on your old harddrive mbr | 15:02 |
| daeavelwyn | for example on /dev/sda | 15:02 |
| scary_hallo | I still ran 'update-grub' from the new sysem. it doesn't change anything | 15:02 |
| daeavelwyn | and now, you want it installed from /dev/sdc (your 3rd disk) | 15:02 |
| scary_hallo | yes | 15:03 |
| scary_hallo | do you think I have to use the 'gub-install' command? | 15:04 |
| daeavelwyn | perhaps you also have to remove grub from /dev/sda | 15:04 |
| daeavelwyn | yes | 15:04 |
| daeavelwyn | otherwise your grub installation will still be /dev/Sda | 15:04 |
| daeavelwyn | instead of /dev/sdc as you want it will | 15:04 |
| scary_hallo | grub-install /dev/sdc ? | 15:05 |
| daeavelwyn | do you understand the different steps exposed in the howto I previously post ? | 15:05 |
| daeavelwyn | yes, that the right command you have to enter FROM your NEW installation | 15:05 |
| daeavelwyn | you can also try this tool : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair | 15:06 |
| LAbot | Title: Boot-Repair - Community Help Wiki (at help.ubuntu.com) | 15:06 |
| daeavelwyn | even it 's powerless than command line one | 15:06 |
| scary_hallo | If can start into my new system, then don't need to start from live-DVD,right? | 15:07 |
| daeavelwyn | hmmm....yes, probably | 15:08 |
| daeavelwyn | the important part should be the grub-install part, I guess | 15:08 |
| daeavelwyn | but i'm not a linux expert ^_^ | 15:09 |
| scary_hallo | OK. I'll try that. I have to reeboot now | 15:10 |
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| scary_hallo | :-( doesn't help | 15:30 |
| falktx | scary_hallo: it seems like you need to reinstall grub | 15:33 |
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| WTS | yeah. | 15:36 |
| WTS | oh whoops, too late now | 15:36 |
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| scary_hallo | @ WTS and daeavelvyn: Changing the hd order in bios helped | 15:53 |
| WTS | scary_hallo: glad to hear!! | 15:53 |
| scary_hallo | ... and win7 is still starting | 15:53 |
| scary_hallo | Thanks for the help | 15:54 |
| WTS | no problem, i appreciated the quick help i got on IRC when i got stuck so i try to do same for others... even tho i'm not as knowledgeable as the regulars :D | 15:55 |
| WTS | enjoy KX! | 15:55 |
| scary_hallo | KX rochs!!! | 15:55 |
| scary_hallo | sorry, | 15:55 |
| scary_hallo | KX ROCKS! | 15:55 |
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| daeavelwyn | scary_hallo: glad to ear it's now working :) | 16:04 |
| daeavelwyn | hear* | 16:05 |
| scary_hallo | Thank you too | 16:06 |
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| daeavelwyn | ;) | 16:10 |
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| tczern | Hi, Linuxsampler, Edit, cannot find gigedit. I have gigedit installed and can launch it in terminal, how can I fix this to work with linuxsampler directly? | 16:48 |
| falktx | needs to be in the proper dir | 16:49 |
| falktx | it's been a while since I used it, so don't know the details | 16:50 |
| tczern | ok, where are these dir? hint hint please :-) | 16:53 |
| tczern | a sym link in the Linuxsampler directory will do it I guess | 16:53 |
| WTS | /usr/share/somethingsomething i would wager | 16:53 |
| tczern | "Make sure you have an appropriate instrument editor like 'gigedit' installed and that it placed its mandatory DLL file into the sampler's plugin directory." | 16:54 |
| tczern | well, who writes something like this and disappears ? | 16:54 |
| tczern | sampler's plugin ?? Linuxsampler is also a standalone app | 16:55 |
| tczern | it's in /usr/bin, but I don't see a directory | 16:56 |
| WTS | tried console -> man linuxsampler? | 16:56 |
| WTS | also whereis linuxsampler might tell you a bit more | 16:56 |
| tczern | no manual entry | 16:56 |
| tczern | linux uses also dll extensions? I thaught that's a windows thing only | 16:58 |
| WTS | i have a feeling you wouldn't get too far without mono in that case? | 16:59 |
| tczern | all I want to do is to adjust attack of sampler, G-Player from soundlib has such functions and I wonder if Linxsampler can do this to | 17:00 |
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| falktx | This won't be done today | 17:05 |
| falktx | I believe it requires rebuilding linuxsampler first | 17:05 |
| WTS | or | 17:05 |
| WTS | use jack? | 17:05 |
| falktx | well, building libgig, then linuxsampler, then gigedit | 17:05 |
| falktx | ? | 17:05 |
| WTS | or mess with soundcard DSP? | 17:06 |
| falktx | I don't package gigedit on the kxstudio repos right now | 17:06 |
| tczern | I noticed, why? | 17:06 |
| falktx | haven't done it yet | 17:07 |
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| daeavelwyn | falktx: couldn't we have the save functionality with carla *.gig support ? | 17:23 |
| daeavelwyn | I mean, does carla can do the same at the moment ? | 17:23 |
| falktx | daeavelwyn: what do you mean? | 17:23 |
| daeavelwyn | I just wonder if there is a difference, in term of functionality, between carlan and linuxsampler for now ? | 17:24 |
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| tczern | Nit sure, can Carla not load Linuxsampler? I cannot remember, I installed gigedit and tried it and it can NOT load the Linuxsampler plugin | 17:40 |
| tczern | not sure, not nit, aargh | 17:40 |
| falktx | it doesn't because it doesn't need to | 17:48 |
| falktx | carla itself can load whatever linuxsampler does | 17:48 |
| falktx | it has linuxsampler inside so to speak | 17:48 |
| tczern | ah, so I didn't screw anything up :-| ? | 17:49 |
| tczern | is there a way that I can use those 8 standard knobs in Carla with Ampatk with Linuxsampler? That may do the trick for me | 17:51 |
| falktx | ampatk? | 17:55 |
| tczern | AmpAtk, the first know when you load a plugin into Carla | 18:01 |
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| tczern | the first knob, ha ha, I cut my fingers with glass, kinda odd to type | 18:08 |
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| falktx | the first knob depends on the plugin loaded | 18:15 |
| tczern | oh, I haven't noticed this yet, thanks! | 18:15 |
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| tczern | ok, what's the correct way to start linuxsampler, I started qsampler but it won't give me jack as an option, while jack is running | 19:29 |
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| distrozapper | tczern, Try this: In qsampler there is a greenish device configuration symbol (looking like a PCI soundcard). Click it, select "Audio devices" and create a new device with driver JACK. | 19:59 |
| distrozapper | + | 20:01 |
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| AutoStatic | zth_studiocomp: Gavveb, are you a site manager of libremusicproduction.com? | 20:42 |
| AutoStatic | I mean Gabbe | 20:42 |
| AutoStatic | :) | 20:42 |
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| AutoStatic | Or any other libremusicproductions.com admins around? | 20:44 |
| tczern | @distrozapper, yes, thanks, and here I get only alsa as an option | 20:45 |
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