| holstein | there are people getting paid to ride that wave out | 00:01 |
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| holstein | what do you do.. | 00:01 |
| WTS | call some people who work at your national equivalent of the EFF | 00:03 |
| WTS | :P | 00:03 |
| holstein | that would be nice | 00:03 |
| holstein | i dont think we have "higher ups" that care like that | 00:03 |
| WTS | also call some politicians, mention risk of losing research to malicious 3rd parties | 00:03 |
| WTS | also rampant botnets and malware on campus | 00:03 |
| holstein | they will just midigate the issues, afterwards.. charging for that.. | 00:04 |
| WTS | "are we subsidizing the russian knowledge workers instead of our own?" | 00:04 |
| holstein | basically ;) | 00:04 |
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| falktx | haha, confirmed | 00:48 |
| falktx | the issue is indeed with wine, works fine on real windows | 00:48 |
| WTS | which plugin is it that is problematic? | 00:52 |
| falktx | plugins made with DPF | 00:52 |
| falktx | (my own little framework for plugins) | 00:52 |
| falktx | having them work nicely cross-platform is important | 00:53 |
| WTS | this implies lots of fixage in your near future :P | 00:54 |
| holstein | yeah. for code thats not your responsiblity :/ | 00:54 |
| holstein | thats working "as advertised".. | 00:54 |
| falktx | WTS: yes, but I only have to fix it once | 00:55 |
| falktx | all my plugins will use that framework | 00:56 |
| falktx | (plus with a few more developers) | 00:56 |
| falktx | so fix it once, fix for everyone :) | 00:56 |
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| WTS | falktx: cool! i would say that is a sweet opportunity to do some good then | 00:58 |
| WTS | i didn't know you had your own plugin system... would love to know more | 00:59 |
| * WTS googles | 01:00 | |
| falktx | .g distrho dpf | 01:00 |
| thelonius | falktx: https://github.com/falkTX/DPF | 01:00 |
| falktx | that's the old url | 01:00 |
| falktx | WTS: https://github.com/DISTRHO/DPF | 01:00 |
| falktx | WTS: I did a small presentation about it http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2014/video.php?id=91 | 01:01 |
| LAbot` | Title: LAC 2014: Video: "DISTRHO Plugin Framework" by Filipe Coelho (at lac.linuxaudio.org) | 01:01 |
| WTS | ah yes! distrho i had that installed before. thanks for the additional info, will check it out!! | 01:21 |
| falktx | don't confuse the distrho project, distrho ports and distrho framework | 01:21 |
| falktx | the project is everything, ports are mostly juce based, the framework is my own code from scratch | 01:22 |
| WTS | oops, good to know :) i'm downloading the presentation now, very interested in the project. | 01:29 |
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| HarryHaaren | thelonius, tell falktx Hey, heard of this? http://sourceforge.net/projects/fututrestudio64bit/ | 10:01 |
| thelonius | HarryHaaren: I'll pass that on when falktx is around. | 10:01 |
| LAbot` | Title: Future Studio oS 64bit | SourceForge.net (at sourceforge.net) | 10:01 |
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| WTS | HarryHaaren: hi, I'm delving into the MPX-100, very very versatile unit. didn't quite grasp that when i bought it. can i ask how you had it hooked up when you used it and what you used it for? | 12:06 |
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| HarryHaaren | WTS, hey sorry was away - away again in a sec - you here? | 12:44 |
| HarryHaaren | i was using it with a post-fader send from my desk, and a stereo return - good for reverb / delays | 12:44 |
| HarryHaaren | each channel sends a specific amount (post fader) | 12:45 |
| HarryHaaren | then the whole lot can be controlled via the return fader | 12:45 |
| HarryHaaren | note that the effect was set to "wet only" so that it only had the reverb/delay, not the original signal | 12:45 |
| HarryHaaren | does that answer anythign? | 12:45 |
| HarryHaaren | I'll be back every 1/2 hour or so, just ask and I'll try get back to you. Later! | 12:45 |
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| WTS | yeah i'm here | 12:51 |
| WTS | sec, phone | 12:52 |
| WTS | :D 30 mins then!! | 12:54 |
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| HarryHaaren | WTS, here? | 13:15 |
| WTS | yeah | 13:16 |
| WTS | :) | 13:16 |
| WTS | pl;ayed around a lot with the mpx-100 | 13:17 |
| WTS | and i realized later i may have modified the default preset fx | 13:17 |
| WTS | is that possible? | 13:17 |
| WTS | the manual wasn't very clear on this to me | 13:18 |
| HarryHaaren | WTS, tag me :) | 13:24 |
| HarryHaaren | no - short of changing the dials on the front I don't think there's a way to modify the internal presets | 13:24 |
| WTS | awesome. okay, next... q let me formulate | 13:26 |
| WTS | HarryHaaren: okay so i am currently using the mpx-100 connected to my pc's 2xRCA stereo outs | 13:27 |
| WTS | they go in the analog in; i noticed it cuts a lot of the db's out | 13:28 |
| WTS | (the MPX's analog ins, that is) | 13:28 |
| WTS | that's fine, i mean i got ampage up the wazoo but... i then route the signal via analog out to the marantz eq-140 then the main amp... should I be using spdif out instead? | 13:30 |
| HarryHaaren | depends - you haven't stated the problem, or what you're trying to achieve. | 13:31 |
| HarryHaaren | if it works well enough for your needs, then don't change anything | 13:31 |
| HarryHaaren | if there's an issue, yes try anything to fix it :D | 13:31 |
| HarryHaaren | WTS, ^ | 13:31 |
| HarryHaaren | I generally avoid SPDIF, being in favor of old-school cables, and easy control from a mixer (i have a SoundCraft M12) | 13:32 |
| HarryHaaren | the sends / returns on the mixer are normal 1/4inch jacks, so its all easy | 13:32 |
| HarryHaaren | how to setup for you depends on what gear you're using it with - and what you're trying to achieve. | 13:33 |
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| WTS | okay, yeah. :D well, i want to hook up my hercules rmx and use the MPX-100 to add delay to deck 1, deck 2 or both decks; | 13:34 |
| WTS | i know the herc doesn't support mixing external FX but i think i could get it to work with some trickery | 13:34 |
| HarryHaaren | (with JACK?) | 13:34 |
| WTS | oh, that would also be an option | 13:35 |
| HarryHaaren | even then - i'd try and get a software solution that auto-syncs the Delay time to BPM | 13:35 |
| HarryHaaren | the OpenAV ArtyFX Della plugin does this - when LV2 support is integrated in Mixxx, you'll be flying it - http://openavproductions.com/artyfx | 13:35 |
| LAbot` | Title: ArtyFX | OpenAV (at openavproductions.com) | 13:36 |
| HarryHaaren | (which they're working on http://www.mixxx.org/wiki/doku.php/lv2_support ) | 13:36 |
| LAbot` | Title: lv2_support [Mixxx Wiki] (at www.mixxx.org) | 13:36 |
| WTS | i was thinking cables. the rmx can be set up to use 2 outputs instead of one | 13:36 |
| WTS | (as would be required to use Jack for channel FX | 13:36 |
| HarryHaaren | WTS, advice to get this running right now? Draw a diagram of what you want to acheive exactly, and then make that happen | 13:36 |
| HarryHaaren | there's so many routing options with hardware / software / JACK / plugins, that its easy to get confused and lost | 13:37 |
| WTS | okay cool. i will | 13:37 |
| WTS | i got some software for exactly that | 13:37 |
| WTS | will be back in a while then!! | 13:37 |
| WTS | thx for all advice so far, it's invaluable! | 13:38 |
| HarryHaaren | y/w, I'm to go to the city for the rest of the day - chat tomorrow / another time | 13:38 |
| WTS | cool! i'll have some visual support ready by then! | 13:40 |
| HarryHaaren | awesome. | 13:40 |
| * HarryHaaren out, pancakes for lunch - > to infinity and beyond :D | 13:40 | |
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| dalurka | I'm running kxstudio repos in ubuntu 14.10 for a jack+pulse setup with cadence via the jackdbus thingy | 14:56 |
| dalurka | the thing is if I leave the computer for a while jackdbus hogs 2cores and the computer becomes totally useless unless I manage to kill jackdbus which is not possble sometimes because the computer will not take my input... | 14:58 |
| dalurka | is this known? | 14:58 |
| dalurka | I've found some threads via google but no solution | 14:58 |
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| holstein | dalurka: could be.. i know, i dont leave jack running like that.. are you up to date with upgrades? | 16:24 |
| dalurka | yes | 16:54 |
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| dalurka | since I installed kxstudio it has taken over my pulseaudio | 16:55 |
| holstein | dalurka: ? | 16:55 |
| dalurka | It's starting jack when I boot | 16:55 |
| holstein | you mean, since you added the kxstudio ppa's? | 16:55 |
| dalurka | yes | 16:55 |
| holstein | dalurka: sure.. thats what kxstudio does | 16:55 |
| holstein | i personally just add the ppa's, and carefully choose the packages, and configs, so, jack is *not* autostarting | 16:56 |
| dalurka | would be nice to have a button to switch back to normal pulse operation.. | 16:56 |
| holstein | but, jack is intended to autostart.. | 16:56 |
| holstein | dalurka: you can use the *same* button, if you like | 16:56 |
| dalurka | which one? | 16:56 |
| holstein | dalurka: whatever you used to use | 16:56 |
| holstein | dalurka: or, just kill it.. whatever you like | 16:57 |
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| holstein | dalurka: you just need to specify what you want | 16:57 |
| holstein | when you install kxstudio, autostarting jack is a "feature".. if its unwanted, you can work with that.. | 16:57 |
| dalurka | I want to be able to switch betwen normal pulseaudio and jack+pulseaudio operation | 16:58 |
| holstein | dalurka: sure, go fo rit | 16:58 |
| holstein | dalurka: personally, i *never* want pulse with jack, so, i have to take even another step | 16:58 |
| holstein | dalurka: again, what do i do? i add the ppa's.. *just* the sources.. and i dont add any of the kxstudio packages or meta packages that faciliate functionality i dont want | 16:59 |
| dalurka | oh so you're not running dbus | 16:59 |
| holstein | dalurka: you can add the ppa's, and update to falk's versions of the software | 16:59 |
| dalurka | I have done that | 16:59 |
| holstein | dalurka: correct.. im not interested in either the jack dbus, nor, jack running at boot | 16:59 |
| holstein | i start and stop jack as needed.. | 17:00 |
| dalurka | I want to automate that so I don't have to | 17:00 |
| holstein | dalurka: sure.. you want to automate what? | 17:00 |
| holstein | or, are you saying, you want to un-do the automation that you added? | 17:01 |
| dalurka | no, I'll work with that. my issue is the first thing I wrote. that jackdbus hags and uses up all of my cpu | 17:01 |
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| dalurka | and it is realtime so the system gets really unusable after that | 17:02 |
| holstein | what is "realtime"? | 17:03 |
| holstein | you have a realtime kernel? you mean? is that falk's kernel? | 17:03 |
| dalurka | no, I just use rt scheduler | 17:08 |
| dalurka | you don't need a realtime kernel for that | 17:08 |
| holstein | so, remove that from the euqation | 17:08 |
| holstein | anything like that that you are adding in can cause breakage | 17:08 |
| holstein | if you need an RT kernel, you'll know.. but, pushing your latency too low can cause system instabilyt | 17:09 |
| holstein | instability* | 17:09 |
| dalurka | I use the defaults | 17:09 |
| dalurka | I've changed to 48kHz | 17:09 |
| holstein | dalurka: sure.. so, *change* the default settings.. where, you, as i suggested, relax the latency settings | 17:09 |
| holstein | dalurka: again, setting the latency lower than the system, or system configuration can handle, can cause instability | 17:10 |
| holstein | try and isolate what can be causing your issue | 17:10 |
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| holstein | try, if you are using, for example, a firewire or USB audio deivce.. test with the internal audio device | 17:10 |
| dalurka | I'm using the internal one | 17:10 |
| tczern | hi. anyone using an M-Audio Quattro and got all 4 channels to work? | 17:11 |
| holstein | those are notoriously "Bad" with performance | 17:11 |
| holstein | tczern: try #opensourcemusicians or ask maudio for support | 17:11 |
| tczern | haha, m-audio and support, thanks for the channel ID! | 17:12 |
| holstein | if maudio wants, they can support *all* the open software you are referencing | 17:12 |
| tczern | they cannot even support that tihing on windows 7 | 17:12 |
| holstein | if they dont, then, it can be challenging.. though, most USB devices are "class compliant", i find, i personally accept compromises, since, im using an operating system they specifically dont support | 17:13 |
| tczern | so, they don't want, they want you to buy new stuff | 17:13 |
| holstein | "they" are free to support the open eco-system.. if they dont, then, it can be a challenge | 17:13 |
| holstein | personally, i'll just throw a lot of live ISO's at hardware.. i want to try different alsa and kernel versions | 17:13 |
| tczern | I got that the Quattro to work, 2 in 2 out, Linux is the only system where in runs in 64bit, not so in windows or osx | 17:13 |
| holstein | if i see something that is supported by the hardware, i'll make a note of the relevant versions | 17:14 |
| dalurka | holstein: turned off realtime now..suppose I can try without in normal operation and use it when I need | 17:15 |
| tczern | #Ardour | 17:16 |
| holstein | dalurka: i dont know what you mean by "turned off realtime" | 17:16 |
| dalurka | holstein: realtime scheduling | 17:16 |
| holstein | dalurka: if you are saying, you unticked a checkbox, that wont do anything | 17:16 |
| dalurka | holstein: in jack | 17:16 |
| tczern | damned, sorry | 17:16 |
| dalurka | holstein: really? | 17:16 |
| holstein | dalurka: what im suggesting is, *please* relax your jack settings.. | 17:16 |
| holstein | dalurka: sure.. thats just a tickbox.. its not hard coding any timing into the system | 17:16 |
| holstein | dalurka: your internal audio device is inappropriate, you may not have a kernel that is capable of providing the latency you are shooting for | 17:17 |
| holstein | i would try those ^ before anything else | 17:17 |
| dalurka | so where do I do this? since kxstudio set everything up I have no idea where stuff are | 17:17 |
| holstein | dalurka: i use the same tools | 17:17 |
| holstein | dalurka: i use qjackctl , since thats what im comfortable with | 17:17 |
| holstein | you can use the kxstudio tools if you prefer | 17:17 |
| dalurka | I used that before and didn't have these problems | 17:18 |
| dalurka | might go back to that | 17:18 |
| holstein | sure | 17:18 |
| holstein | you have *different* versions.. | 17:18 |
| dalurka | of what? | 17:18 |
| holstein | dalurka: of software | 17:18 |
| holstein | dalurka: kxstudio sources provide different versions | 17:18 |
| holstein | alsa, jack.. different kernels, if you install them | 17:19 |
| holstein | could be anything in the chain | 17:19 |
| dalurka | oh yes | 17:19 |
| dalurka | I might try to revert some other day | 17:19 |
| holstein | when i migrated my studio rig to kxstudio, i installed on a seperate machine, to test | 17:20 |
| holstein | i did all my testing there, and also, kept that machine, so that i could run updates there, and test them, *before* runinng then on my main production machine | 17:20 |
| holstein | i ran a seperate partition on a seperate drive to test and setup as well.. | 17:20 |
| holstein | i jumped from ubuntu 10.04 with kxstudio to 12.04 with kxstudio.. *keeping* my 10.04 on a seperate partition | 17:21 |
| holstein | this is the level of "look before you leap" you have to take on, if you want things to be stable | 17:21 |
| dalurka | ok, that must have been years ago | 17:21 |
| holstein | testing, and isolating.. and not assuming | 17:21 |
| dalurka | we're at 14.10 now | 17:21 |
| holstein | dalurka: sure.. the version #'s *indicate* the years | 17:21 |
| dalurka | or you're running old software :) | 17:22 |
| holstein | dalurka: when 14.04 was released, i installed that over my 10.04 install, and *kept* my working 12.04 partition in place | 17:22 |
| holstein | dalurka: friend, im explaining a sequence of events to you, that faciliates me not having the problems you have | 17:22 |
| holstein | i could then, easily "revert" to the working 12.04 install, for example | 17:23 |
| holstein | *anytime* | 17:23 |
| holstein | you can do a level of this, as well.. you can dual boot stock ubuntu and kxstudio.. or, have a testing partition.. | 17:24 |
| dalurka | nah I don't want to dualboot I'd rather know what's happening and fix it | 17:24 |
| holstein | what is happening is, you are installing untested, newer versions | 17:24 |
| holstein | there literally may be no "fix", since nothing is broken | 17:25 |
| holstein | everything is working as inteded | 17:25 |
| holstein | intended* | 17:25 |
| dalurka | people hav had these problems since a couple of years so it's not a new issue | 17:25 |
| dalurka | have | 17:25 |
| holstein | nothing in your hardware chain promised you linux support.. so, you have to test for that | 17:25 |
| holstein | dalurka: sure.. *i* have had those *same* issues | 17:25 |
| holstein | isolate and test | 17:25 |
| holstein | and, try and catch falk here, and he will personally help you | 17:26 |
| dalurka | "nothing in your hardware chain promised you linux support" what? I'm on intel hardware. they support linux | 17:26 |
| holstein | dalurka: if they do, then they do | 17:26 |
| holstein | dalurka: they *do* promise linux support, and do well, but, call them and ask them about your alsa driver support, or jack support | 17:26 |
| holstein | dalurka: your isseue may not be hardware related, anyways | 17:27 |
| holstein | dalurka: test.. have you tried relaxing your jack settings? | 17:27 |
| tczern | kinda quiet in opensource .., maybe you can help me too: look here, scroll down to the /asoundrc settings, I did all this, Jack or Cadence does not show me the multi options, only hw: Quattro,1 and hw:Quattro, 0 that is the reasone why I can choose only 2/2 Channels, I have no clue what I should change so that Jack or Cadence will read the multi or table setup. I am asking here because that may be specific to KXstudio. Thanks! | 17:30 |
| tczern | oups, the links: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/M-Audio_Quattro | 17:30 |
| holstein | tczern: i'll try *all* options, and trust no labels | 17:33 |
| holstein | tczern: you cant trust those alsa labels, since, its just a guess, in many cases | 17:33 |
| holstein | tczern: what i will do is, unplug, or, disable *all* other audio devices.. i'll run a live iso and use jack with "default" and see what i can make happen | 17:34 |
| holstein | ill try with *all* options and look in "connect" under jack for the outputs, assuming nothing | 17:34 |
| holstein | tczern: i would expect, if you actually open the connections panel, you will see the 4 outputs | 17:35 |
| tczern | I had situations where Jack shows 4 inputs but won't capture anything | 17:35 |
| holstein | tczern: "hw:Quattro" is just the entire device.. it'll show seperate ins and outs, when available | 17:35 |
| holstein | tczern: try a specific situation *now* | 17:35 |
| holstein | there are many situations, for sure.. one is, your device doesnt support the operating system you are using.. you were not promised it would | 17:36 |
| holstein | but, it could be, you just need to learn to configure it.. or, try different versions of alsa, or the kernel | 17:36 |
| tczern | I just wonder how jack interprets my asoundrc file. | 17:36 |
| holstein | tczern: i would remove it from the euations | 17:37 |
| holstein | tczern: you shouldng need a custom asoundrc | 17:37 |
| holstein | tczern: and, if you have made one, is it the issue? why did you make it? and were did you get it from? etc | 17:37 |
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| holstein | tczern: i'll use live iso's, which easily bypass that, and give me a "sanitized" known good environment | 17:37 |
| tczern | I got this from the wiki site, link above. I am too clueless to write such a thing | 17:38 |
| holstein | tczern: sure.. from what "wiki" site? | 17:38 |
| tczern | http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/M-Audio_Quattro | 17:38 |
| holstein | tczern: again, i would just remove it from the euqation by using a live iso | 17:38 |
| holstein | tczern: you shouldnt need it | 17:38 |
| tczern | will do, thanks! | 17:38 |
| tczern | I am already amazed that this device runs under linux in 64bit mode. NO WAY with Windows or OSX | 17:39 |
| tczern | Saves me a new interface, the Quattro is a good converter | 17:39 |
| holstein | if you like it, you like it.. just dont expect "magic" from linux | 17:40 |
| tczern | Linux works for me, tried Windows 7 a few times and it didn't take much and the system was corrupted or whatever. and with audio it's not a good idea to have a virus scanner running | 17:42 |
| tczern | OSX is great, but I don't like the Hardware choices, So, that's why I am here | 17:42 |
| holstein | linux works "as advertised".. im quite passionate about it, and choose to use it *everywhere*.. and will actually purchase new/different hardware to faciliate its use for my needs | 17:42 |
| holstein | to expect it to do something its not intended to do is to be setup for failure | 17:43 |
| holstein | i find, a lot of folks have an aging windows machine, and an interface.. they have some $$ in that setup, and understadably so, dont want to lose that investment | 17:43 |
| holstein | they try and land in linux and be *just* as proficient as they were in windowsXP | 17:43 |
| holstein | its not a realistic goal | 17:43 |
| holstein | when a person likely bought a windows box.. used it for *years* before adding recording interfaces, and using pro audio DAW's.. | 17:44 |
| holstein | i say, take it easy.. ease into it.. start with a normal linux desktop, get used to the operating system.. *then* start using jack and the tools with something that works, like the internal audio device.. *then* add an odd interface that doesnt promise linux support in the mux | 17:45 |
| holstein | then, you are not troubleshooting so many things at once.. | 17:45 |
| tczern | true, I used linux before, some years ago, back to OSX, actually a hackintosh, still works fine but outdated, 10.6.8, it's an AMD box and I have to no time to fiddle around to make yosemite work here. Plus, the whole Apple attitude .... sigh, Linux feels like a fresh start. Not sure if it will work for me but for everyday computing it's great, web, internet and the usual suspects. Still have an XP box, runs fine, but I'll put | 17:51 |
| tczern | KX on it soon | 17:51 |
| holstein | its funny to think of that as an "apple attitude" ;) | 17:51 |
| holstein | for me, i considered building a hackintosh, and looked into it.. actually got an installer disk running | 17:52 |
| holstein | but, i thought about the support and the promise and burden of support | 17:52 |
| tczern | "the world's most adavanced OS" ... | 17:52 |
| tczern | if they hadn't crippled the new mac mini I would have bought one | 17:52 |
| holstein | they dont promise me this "take our operating system and run it anywhere you like".. they actually promise the opposite | 17:52 |
| tczern | also, Yosemite looks a$$ugly now | 17:53 |
| holstein | and, i didnt need/want anything that OSX specificially facilitates.. *all* the things i need or want are capable of being made to run on linux.. so i didnt take the risk | 17:53 |
| tczern | I have software for an eLicenser, so that sucks on linux | 17:53 |
| holstein | at least, with linux, when i choose to run it on some hardware that is not specifically designed to run linux, only one side of that equation is against it.. and likely, they are not against it.. its just not something they support | 17:54 |
| tczern | yep | 17:54 |
| holstein | tczern: sure, but, *all* of linux is open.. if your eLicencer wants, they support it.. and as it becomse more financially viable to do so, they will :) | 17:54 |
| holstein | nothing about linux is preventing that | 17:55 |
| holstein | specifically, things at apple are trying to prevent me from choosing the hardware it runs on.. and software that runs on it.. so, its not a good choice for me | 17:55 |
| holstein | theres nothing wrong, or broken about it.. its just the way they do business.. and good for them | 17:55 |
| holstein | a lot of my family have OSX machines that i manage for them.. works fine.. not intended for me | 17:56 |
| tczern | they are just too lazy to write a code for it, and so is VSL. I asked them and they responded they wouldn't bother to offer linux version of their software for only a handful of people who use it | 17:56 |
| holstein | its not "lazy".. its interest.. they have no reason to | 17:56 |
| tczern | right | 17:56 |
| holstein | when they do, they will. and it will be *too* easy for them.. its *all* open, and nothing, literally nothing in any way, is preventing them, in any way | 17:56 |
| tczern | because, MOST people use windows | 17:56 |
| holstein | no | 17:57 |
| tczern | no? | 17:57 |
| holstein | *most* people use android | 17:57 |
| tczern | haha | 17:57 |
| tczern | naaha, most home desktops are windows? | 17:57 |
| holstein | most homes have more android devices | 17:57 |
| holstein | i mean, im not trying to split hairs, or argue.. no doubt, windows is a viable target for a company | 17:58 |
| tczern | Windows isn't bad, it jsut feels fragile to me. always some shit happening | 17:58 |
| holstein | windows works as advertises as well | 17:58 |
| holstein | its horrible for end users to maintain | 17:58 |
| holstein | but, we all know why they bought the windows PC.. the $$ | 17:58 |
| tczern | I like cheapo too | 17:59 |
| tczern | BTW, the F keys on the Apple Keyboard won't work for Linux? | 18:00 |
| tczern | tried them with htop, nothing | 18:01 |
| holstein | apple is welcome and encouraged to make sure all of that works for the end user | 18:01 |
| holstein | .g ubuntu wiki macbook | 18:01 |
| thelonius | holstein: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook | 18:01 |
| LAbot` | Title: MacBook - Community Help Wiki (at help.ubuntu.com) | 18:01 |
| holstein | ^ thats what i refer to | 18:01 |
| holstein | though, debian and other communities have nice documentation as well | 18:01 |
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| daeavelwyn | does someone know if giving a high priority to a mount can improve performances ? | 23:28 |
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| HarryHaaren | daeavelwyn, won't make a difference.. | 23:38 |
| HarryHaaren | daeavelwyn, well - in theory it will. But reality? the disk spinning (assuming not SSD) is the slow factor - changing nice or prio of the program accessing it won't matter | 23:39 |
| HarryHaaren | better question - why are you asking this? :D | 23:39 |
| daeavelwyn | HarryHaaren: i have a SSD ^_^ | 23:39 |
| HarryHaaren | in that case - why are you asking this? Is disk access not stupidly fast already? | 23:40 |
| * HarryHaaren guesses your SSD is almost 100% full in that case. Like mine :) | 23:40 | |
| daeavelwyn | Because i'm trying to improve realtime using orchestral VSTi | 23:40 |
| HarryHaaren | are you sure its disk-access that's the bottleneck? | 23:40 |
| daeavelwyn | actually, access isn't bad | 23:41 |
| daeavelwyn | I just wonder if I could improve :) | 23:42 |
| HarryHaaren | no problemo? No fixy :) | 23:42 |
| HarryHaaren | if you *really* want to improve it, RAID and a stripe it across 2 drives | 23:43 |
| HarryHaaren | but that's a pretty hard-hitting solution if its not a bad / annoying issue | 23:43 |
| HarryHaaren | i'd sooner buy more RAM and just keep it all in RAM. | 23:43 |
| HarryHaaren | spectromas, hey :D ^^^ | 23:44 |
| * HarryHaaren likes converations in multiple rooms that lead to the same conclusions | 23:44 | |
| spectromas | haha hey HarryHaaren, yeah just noticed that too late | 23:44 |
| daeavelwyn | :) | 23:45 |
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