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| russell_ | KX user for some time now. Thought id ask here about midi on 12.04lts _64 intel i5. 8gigs ram...reliable machine for several years with Kxstudio 12.04. Recently trying midi stuff again usuing fluid (calf fluid LV2). Ardour 3.5.403 crashes consitently. Muse crashes consitently. Qtractor does not. Midi files are fine. Any similar experience? | 20:10 |
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| russell__ | k | 20:12 |
| russell__ | there we are | 20:12 |
| russell__ | hi folx | 20:13 |
| russell__ | looking for input on midi crashes. stable machine running 12.04 lts _64 for quite awhile now... | 20:14 |
| russell__ | ardour 3.5.403 crashes ....I use Cal Fluid LV2 | 20:14 |
| russell__ | Muse crashes | 20:14 |
| russell__ | Qtractor does not | 20:14 |
| russell__ | similar experiences? | 20:15 |
| russell__ | muse 2.2 | 20:16 |
| russell__ | I keep everything current in synaptic | 20:16 |
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| russell__ | .tap>tap>tap. | 20:20 |
| russell__ | this thing on? :) | 20:20 |
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| AutoStatic | As I don't use Muse or Ardour I fear I can't help :( | 20:57 |
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| holstein | russell__: i actually dont have my 12.04 partiton any longer | 21:16 |
| holstein | russell__: i woudl just try and continue to isolate the parts from one another | 21:16 |
| holstein | russell__: you have a midi session? | 21:16 |
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| alex-EU | JackWinter: evening. | 21:19 |
| JackWinter | alex-EU: hiya | 21:26 |
| russell__ | Ive tried 14.04 60 days ago. sluggish compared... By midi session, not sure what your asking. | 21:27 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: passing this on from testing. Carla seems to run better here, with higher WINE_RT and WINE_SVR_RT settings than are default. Given the settings you've passed to me before something like 55 and 60 might be worth testing with in your setup. | 21:28 |
| JackWinter | alex-EU: better in what sense? | 21:28 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: I tried quite a few settings going up and down in increments of 5. | 21:28 |
| JackWinter | i guess that would make some of it run in preference to jack and it's callback | 21:29 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: More stable running K instances. I was and am tryinf to strike a balance in settings between Jack, Wine, Reaper, Carla, etc. | 21:29 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: My jack settings is 89 | 21:30 |
| JackWinter | to be honest i'm testing a wine without rt patch just starting with chrt -f -p 55 wine app.exe and it appears to run very well too. i'd like to think that the patch helps, but maybe on a fast smp system it does very little | 21:30 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Latest dev release? | 21:30 |
| JackWinter | alex-EU: but like i said, maybe worth playing with. | 21:30 |
| JackWinter | i got the wine-staging this time. the reason it has no -rt patch applied either | 21:31 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: right. | 21:31 |
| JackWinter | do you know tuna? that's quite nice and let's you play with affinities and priorities from a gui | 21:32 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: i don't know, but i'll go look right now | 21:32 |
| JackWinter | alex-EU: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_MRG/1.3/pdf/Tuna_User_Guide/Red_Hat_Enterprise_MRG-1.3-Tuna_User_Guide-en-US.pdf | 21:32 |
| JackWinter | with that you can also show all the threads in an app, and change priority of just a few threads | 21:33 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: ok, thanks. just looked in synpatic and it's not listed. | 21:33 |
| JackWinter | probably much faster than restarting loads of kontakt instances | 21:33 |
| JackWinter | i'm sure it's around for debian somewhere | 21:35 |
| holstein | russell__: what are you doing? | 21:35 |
| holstein | are you opening a session? are you creating one? | 21:36 |
| holstein | are you sure all your connections are "good" or right? have you tried as another user, to rule out the user config? what error messages are you getting where? | 21:36 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Can't find it for debian. | 21:38 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: I'll fish around for it tomorrow. | 21:44 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: Thanks for the heads up | 21:44 |
| alex-EU | falktx: I tried the muse upgrade you added to the repos, and got crashes with X errors. Tried the CLi option you suggested with plastique. No difference. | 21:45 |
| JackWinter | well off to bed for me :S cyu | 21:46 |
| alex-EU | JackWinter: night. | 21:47 |
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| russell__ | @holstein: less prepped than I should be...distracted by football playoffs! Havent tried diff user acct... Ardour: create new session, import midi tracks per file. add Calf fluid. Checked connections in | 22:06 |
| holstein | russell__: so, its not that ardour is crashing? then? ardour does start? | 22:06 |
| holstein | something you do triggers a crash? | 22:06 |
| holstein | you can start ardour from the terminal, and see what output is there at the crash | 22:06 |
| russell__ | oh yeah. regular DAW fucntions seem ok | 22:06 |
| holstein | you can look at the JACK log | 22:06 |
| holstein | you can, as you are doing, just use what is working for the midi portion of the session and route in JACK | 22:07 |
| holstein | you can try as the other user, or with a live iso running JACK and ardour, and isolate all your versions and config | 22:07 |
| russell__ | aye! will do. msg truncated to channel.....Muse new session, import midi dies too | 22:08 |
| russell__ | Qtractor is fine | 22:08 |
| holstein | you can always try in #opensourcemsusicians as well.. may find, at some point, a 12.04 user | 22:09 |
| russell__ | i need to download the latest 14.04 iso and check it out again | 22:09 |
| russell__ | pretty easy with iso USB keys n whatnot! | 22:10 |
| holstein | i find it a nice way to help isolate things and test.. | 22:10 |
| russell__ | my mind wondered back 15 yrs when I logged into the ardour channel | 22:29 |
| russell__ | its become REALLY easy in most ways | 22:29 |
| russell__ | USB key iso with persistence? 8Gig USB drives?????? | 22:30 |
| russell__ | :) | 22:30 |
| holstein | i dont | 22:30 |
| holstein | i just install to the stick.. | 22:30 |
| holstein | i get a normal installation, with "persistence" by definition.. | 22:30 |
| russell__ | indeed. Done that too....I like to keep a cpl of distros in my pocket to plug into someelses gear. Blows their mind mostly | 22:31 |
| russell__ | All i use by default is mixbus or some Ardour 3 | 22:31 |
| holstein | i use mixbus as well | 22:32 |
| russell__ | cool. I love those guys. Easy to deal with. Great sound with their eq algo's, channel comp is convenient | 22:32 |
| russell__ | even own most of their plugins. well worth the $$ and its some support on my behault | 22:33 |
| holstein | agreed | 22:33 |
| russell__ | But it coz of linux audio. | 22:33 |
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| russell__ | I use the osx version too sometimes...small old laptop very convenient with FW 12 I/O | 22:34 |
| russell__ | Mostly on KX studio for nearly 3 yrs now I think | 22:34 |
| russell__ | Even put it on my macbook! :P | 22:35 |
| holstein | not me | 22:35 |
| holstein | i gave up on the macbook for linux audio | 22:36 |
| holstein | the firewire chipset is a pain | 22:36 |
| russell__ | well, my mackbook is a dino, eh! Cant upgrade to newer Osx. Makes *any* linux audio distro attractive | 22:36 |
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| russell__ | FW is a pain!!! but Im greatful for it | 22:37 |
| russell__ | Echo Audiofire 12 made me a believer | 22:37 |
| russell__ | if only it had dig. I/O (spdif) | 22:38 |
| holstein | thats on my list | 22:38 |
| holstein | i have a presonus firepod, but, i think the audiofire is a better clock | 22:38 |
| russell__ | I got an old Layla with PCI card for US$100~ | 22:38 |
| holstein | and, i have a console i would like to use the pre's from.. so i dont need pres | 22:39 |
| holstein | the laylas are nice | 22:39 |
| russell__ | I love high end Presonus...dunno about their interfaces tho | 22:39 |
| russell__ | The clock and function of the audiofire thru Tex Instr. Firewire chip is very solid | 22:39 |
| russell__ | just can get supr low lat. | 22:40 |
| holstein | its not bad | 22:40 |
| holstein | i have a presonus eureka that is nice | 22:40 |
| russell__ | cool | 22:40 |
| russell__ | Im a bit of a low pro collecter n hoarder. I got a Delta 101LT I still wont let go of! lol | 22:41 |
| russell__ | er..1010LT | 22:41 |
| russell__ | nasty xtalk! | 22:41 |
| russell__ | Still reasonable converters for $50! | 22:41 |
| holstein | yeah and works well in linux | 22:42 |
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| russell__ | yes! That was the major attraction originally. Strong support for the envy chip | 22:42 |
| russell__ | Trying to come up with an efficient method of linking the Layla & audiofire together for 20x20 analogue I/O synced. No need for Super low lat...but stable @ say 128/2, 44.1 would be useful. | 22:44 |
| holstein | eh. i dont care for linking cards like that | 22:45 |
| holstein | its a mess. | 22:45 |
| russell__ | add an adat or 3! lol. We shall name it Collusus | 22:45 |
| russell__ | I agree... | 22:45 |
| holstein | id like if an adat card could just provide me with 24 channels via lightpipe or whatever | 22:45 |
| holstein | get my own A/D's and pres.. | 22:46 |
| russell__ | Mostly all I want is the max inputs. Live recordings...old school style. | 22:46 |
| russell__ | i hear you | 22:47 |
| holstein | i have to nap before work.. or i'll fall asleep on the stage ;) | 22:47 |
| russell__ | Until Ms Layla, have not had opportunity to play with it on the PC | 22:47 |
| holstein | anyways, try #opensourcemusicians :) its fun.. | 22:47 |
| russell__ | avagoodone!! | 22:47 |
| russell__ | fanx | 22:47 |
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