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| tavixvi | drobilla: The issues I mentioned are primarily getting applications to play nice with ingen. seems like the chance of failure increases exponentially relative to the number of programs the have to play nice. | 01:38 |
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| drobilla | Play nice how? Via what? | 05:55 |
| drobilla | Are you talking about running it as a plugin? | 05:57 |
| tavixvi | running it as a plugin, running certain plugins inside it, glitches like ingen not showing plugins despite having installed them. I dunno. I may or may not be inept. | 06:15 |
| tavixvi | Compiled it on debian testing earlier today and it didn't play nice with calf plugins. Not sure if it was just a gui issue or what. | 06:17 |
| tavixvi | But I used binaries probably compiled with an older gcc against older versions of the libraries it needs. | 06:18 |
| tavixvi | Have you thought about having stable versions or binaries? | 06:20 |
| drobilla | The ingen-as-a-plugin case is still currently something of an experimental / for-those-who-know-what-they're-doing thing | 06:32 |
| drobilla | and Ingen is in general a more demanding plugin than most | 06:33 |
| drobilla | plugins not showing up in general uis usually because of unsupported ports/features | 06:34 |
| drobilla | But calf works fine for me | 06:34 |
| drobilla | Though about a stable version? yes. | 06:34 |
| drobilla | Is there a stable version? no. | 06:34 |
| drobilla | Are you running in development software out of bleeding edge git? yes. So, y'know... :) | 06:35 |
| drobilla | But if you can describe actual isses concretely (ideally as tickets) I will fix them | 06:36 |
| drobilla | I can't debug "doesn't play nice", which spans the gamut from "computer on fire" to "the modules look a little funny" | 06:36 |
| tavixvi | haha, i get ya. I'll do something about that probably in the next 24 hrs | 06:37 |
| drobilla | The main reasons there is no stable release yet is because the protocol and file format need to be fixed in stone, and a few important things are missing for the ingen-as-LV2 case, like presets and better ability to set up controls and such | 06:38 |
| drobilla | I have less than zero interest in dealing with backwards compatibility crap in Ingen | 06:38 |
| tavixvi | fair enough | 06:39 |
| drobilla | (On the bright side when it does get to stable, I will really mean stable, in the "your archived graphs will open on a completely different machine in 5 years" sort of way) | 06:39 |
| * drobilla is ridiculousy busy, but getting there... | 06:40 | |
| drobilla | The state stuff as a plugin is questionable, so best bet (and what I do) is to develop graphs as an app, save them, then load them as plugins | 06:42 |
| tavixvi | huh. That didn't occur to me. Thanks! | 06:45 |
| drobilla | n/p | 06:58 |
| drobilla | (just make sure to save them to LV2_PATH so they show up, i.e. ~/.lv2/) | 06:59 |
| drobilla | Anyway, off to work with me. ttyl | 06:59 |
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