| drobilla | Suppose if I add color configurability to Patchage I kind of have to do it for Ingen, don't I? :) | 02:22 |
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| * drobilla closes 6 year old ticket | 02:32 | |
| drobilla | I have been failing to release this stuff for such a completely ridiculous amount of time | 02:33 |
| ansuz | hi drobilla | 03:25 |
| drobilla | ansuz: 'lo | 03:32 |
| ansuz | I'm gonna have some free time over the summer, what would help? | 03:32 |
| ansuz | docs? | 03:33 |
| drobilla | Depends on your skill set, I suppose | 03:33 |
| drobilla | For Ingen, one of the more userey useful things would probably be build some example patches | 03:33 |
| drobilla | Which inherently has testing built in :) | 03:33 |
| ansuz | your setup is still Debian? | 03:34 |
| ansuz | 7.4? sid? | 03:34 |
| ansuz | btw: (= ansuz aaron) | 03:35 |
| drobilla | testing these days | 03:36 |
| drobilla | ohi | 03:36 |
| ansuz | I'm on regular old wheezy | 03:36 |
| drobilla | Spend a day in a room with a whiteboard and figure out a better programming model than Max and make Ingen that? :) | 03:37 |
| drobilla | I haven't the slightest idea what version I'm technically running | 03:37 |
| drobilla | I install testing, once, and get on with life until the machine dies :) | 03:37 |
| drobilla | They've gotten much better at not breaking stuff on updates | 03:38 |
| ansuz | I'm just testing enough other stuff that it's nice to have a steady core, but I've never tried testing | 03:38 |
| * drobilla isn't on IRC much these days on account of that whole PhD thing | 03:38 | |
| ansuz | I'm pretty much always on | 03:39 |
| ansuz | nearby, procrasticoding | 03:39 |
| drobilla | I can't be. Get distracted by people telling me what to do constantly :) | 03:39 |
| ansuz | how much testing has gone into multi-client patching? | 03:40 |
| drobilla | or "hey! let me list a bunch of shit to you right now and figure you'll magically remember all this 5 weeks later when you have time to actually work on LAD crap" | 03:40 |
| drobilla | I kind of hate IRC :) | 03:40 |
| ansuz | irc is only hard if you try to be nice to people | 03:41 |
| drobilla | Mmmmmm I haven't in a while | 03:41 |
| ansuz | that's the part of ingen I'm most interested in | 03:41 |
| drobilla | Should be good | 03:41 |
| * drobilla runs ingen -e | 03:41 | |
| * drobilla runs ingen -g | 03:41 | |
| * drobilla watches is not connect | 03:41 | |
| drobilla | FFS | 03:41 |
| ansuz | I'm using nodejs a lot lately, event driven stuff could probably work well with the server | 03:42 |
| drobilla | Be nice if it was trivial/handy to make the engine understand JSON | 03:42 |
| drobilla | Buuuuuuuuut it's not really | 03:42 |
| drobilla | I mean, could do it easily enough, but would have to implement another parser/serializer and stuff | 03:43 |
| drobilla | Probably easier to just read/write Turtle in JS | 03:43 |
| drobilla | (RDF doesn't fit in JSON in a non ugly way anyway, unfortunately) | 03:43 |
| ansuz | I've been using markdown a lot lately | 03:43 |
| ansuz | that isn't so bad in json | 03:43 |
| ansuz | it might be easiest to adapt a markdown specification to spit out RDF? | 03:44 |
| ansuz | idk, it's been a while since I looked at your code, and I understood very little of it then. | 03:44 |
| * drobilla doesn't get how markdown is particularly related | 03:45 | |
| * ansuz googles RDF | 03:45 | |
| drobilla | In a sentence, subject/key/value where subject and key are URIs | 03:45 |
| drobilla | Googling RDF will probably get you a bunch of questionably useful enterprisey crap | 03:46 |
| drobilla | That atom paper I sent you is probably the best way to understand the comm, I suppose | 03:47 |
| ansuz | yea, xml | 03:48 |
| drobilla | Kinda sorta, tied with XML in origin | 03:49 |
| drobilla | But abstract data model, not document markup | 03:49 |
| ansuz | it's the nesting as per your paper where it gets ugly? | 03:51 |
| drobilla | In JSON? It's just always ugly because JSON has no datatypes or distinction between string and URI | 03:52 |
| ansuz | ahhh | 03:52 |
| ansuz | I've been doing too much web stuff, forgetting how much speed matters in audio | 03:54 |
| * drobilla fixes remote client | 03:55 | |
| drobilla | note to self, never change anything without testing remote client and run-as-plugin | 03:55 |
| ansuz | if it would be worthwhile, I have a few computers on campus that could be overnight buildbots | 03:56 |
| drobilla | I have 28 or so :D | 03:58 |
| drobilla | I use ccache though, don't spend much time compiling. Most of my stuff is pretty small. | 03:58 |
| drobilla | (Ardour is another story...) | 03:58 |
| ansuz | hehe | 03:58 |
| ansuz | 28 is a good number | 03:58 |
| drobilla | IIRC there's actually 27 identical compute nodes in our lab | 03:59 |
| drobilla | + server and some random other different boxes | 03:59 |
| ansuz | what OS? | 04:03 |
| ansuz | I've been taking care of some mint/ubuntu/arch machines besides my own debian | 04:03 |
| drobilla | unbuntu | 04:03 |
| drobilla | whatever the latest LTS is | 04:03 |
| drobilla | which is starting to get very annoyingly old | 04:03 |
| ansuz | 12.04 | 04:08 |
| ansuz | the alternative was windoze | 04:09 |
| ansuz | I wanted Debian | 04:09 |
| ansuz | mint was a compromise | 04:09 |
| drobilla | Never ran mint but I've heard good things | 04:14 |
| ansuz | you can get a version that's based off of Deb instead of ubuntu | 04:16 |
| ansuz | but the one on our computers is ubuntu | 04:17 |
| ansuz | I find it easier to convert ubuntu into something usuable than mint | 04:18 |
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| drobilla | Anyone running a conventional window manager want to try out Patchage and tell me if it saves actual window coordinates to patchagerc? | 22:08 |
| drobilla | Doesn't for me, but I don't know if that's my wm or what | 22:08 |
| * drobilla fundamentally disagrees with apps doing this anyway, but the desktop crowd has been failing at session management in largely the same way we have, so whatever | 22:08 | |
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